Red light camera in Riverside..

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by svs, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. Jeff aka BOLT

    Jeff aka BOLT Prefer Saturdays

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    You are waaaay over complicating it. If the registration has a male name only... and the photo catches a female the ticket never gets processed.

    If you fight the ticket they have to prove it was YOU driving. Obviously YOU are not a woman. So they don't waste their time with the citation if a woman is caught in a man's car or visa versa.

    By having both names on your registration you are guaranteeing that you and your wife will always receive a ticket.

    If you lent the car to another male you would get the ticket. You can go to court and show them you are not the guy in the photo. Not sure if they have the right to make you narc. Not sure if you narc on your twin if they will pursue him for the violation. Remember this is only traffic court.

    Don't wanna believe... I don't care. I did my research after getting my first $400 camera ticket. I have to drive through 10 of these things in Apple Valley area. So we did the registration thing. So far no tickets and I have had one strobe flash on me 3 months ago. Nothing in the mail.
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  2. CA Stu

    CA Stu Master of air potatofication Super Moderator

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    Ouch us right. Neither one were earned by me, either. :bluduh

    I will be interested to hear if you can get away with it, I certainly wish you luck. :thumb
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  3. Off Limits

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    You have a cop buddy run your shit. My cousin is a lawyer so no names will be given. I like the idea of the name transfers on the registration. And you can't legally get subpoena by mail. Someone has to physically serve you paperwork. Maybe I'm a wanted man in Cerritos, Los alimtos, San Bernardino, and Los Angeles. And I have recieved a ticket just recently by mr. highway patrol for tinted windows in the last few months. Have a nice day sir.
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    You don't have to take my advice, keep feeding the beast and the beast gets bigger. When the beast has to purge cash to pay for process servers and keeping courts open, the beast gets smaller. The goal here is to cash starve the beast.
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  5. Cpt. Ron

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    Don't see how I'm over-complicating things. You said that investigations aren't done on these red light tickets. I have experience contrary to that and said as much. When somebody is looking at a photo and trying to determine the gender to match the registered owner(s), I'll call that an investigation. You have a "system" that you think works based on your 'no investigation' theory, good for you. I hope it continues to work for you.
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  6. Jeff aka BOLT

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    You win Capt Ron... If the clerk looking up your plate number to get your name and address to mail you the ticket is an investigation then from here-to-fore we will refer to it always as an investigation.

    Changes nothing. You are still guanteed to get that ticket as long as you have both male and female names on your registrations.

    But you win the word challenge... you are the master word dude ! :clap
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  7. Mr. G

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    Google "snitch tickets"

    If it is not a "Notice to Appear" and no court location or date is shown then you probably don't have to pay it. If it says "Notice to Appear" and gives you a court date and location then it is an official summons and you have to answer it.

    I got one in Riverside a few years back and because it did not state "Notice to Appear" and no court was shown, I tossed it. I renewed my license recently and there is nothing there.
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    If AB666 passes you WILL pay it and you WILL NOT get the opportunity to fight it in court. It is a VERY ugly bill penned by an asshat that got payola from the company in Az. that runs the scam.
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  9. Off Limits

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    Exactly. And. Notice to appear cannot be just mailed to you. Must be delivered by person, like a cop, or an actual process server. You guys don't actually really go to jury duty do you?
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  10. speedygee68

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    Can someone post where they usually run the red lights, so that I can avoid these areas. I fall down enough on my Husky and break the plastic enough. I don't need someone running me and my bike over. Ain't nobody got time to be getting run over by red light runners. I got asthma!!:muutt
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    Not a certified letter?
    Not served to you by an officer of the court?

    http://www.riverside.courts.ca.gov/publicaccess.shtml







    IF it had been a 'real live'' ticket and you just pay it, it will NOT show up on your Arizona license. I know this first hand. Over and over. My daily work commute takes me into Cali.
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    So did you end up paying?
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  14. tuna101

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    Got nailed in Hesperia last fall on the Bear Valley Cut-off, $508, ouch!
    Very nice pictures of me, my plate, my truck/camper, truck/camper and crosswalk. No fighting as to go there and back + lunch and all day in court wasn't worth it to me, just bit the bullett and paid. :fyyff
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  15. mikerd400

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    In Sacramento County, it is an officer that does the investigation, no clerks are associated at all. Unlike some counties, which rely on clerks, everything in Sac County from start to finish is done by an officer. There are about six dedicated officers in this county for red light camera enforcement.
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  16. Cpt. Ron

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    Mike, regarding the photo not matching the registered owner....Do you know if Sacramento searches for other drivers at the same address to see if they find a match for the offender in the picture?
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  17. svs

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    I'm going to contest the ticket via written declaration.. Will post back how it plays out. Wish me luck on this... the fee amount is $541.

    Cities finances are tight I understand that, but that's a very high fine amount.
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  18. mikerd400

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    I'm not one of the red light officers, but I do know they check other public records to see if there is a spouse, then the officer will check the DMV photo.

    The red light camera program in Sac County is run differently than almost all the others. That why is it upheld in the courts. Unlike the other programs which use Redflex (the camera company) to do the majority of the work, the Sac County officers do everthying. They are the only ones with access to the videos and pictures, and are present for all the calibration on the equipment.

    From what I've seen them testify to in court, the speed sensors are set for 15 mph, so the vehicle needs to be 15 mph or faster to trip the camera.
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  19. Cpt. Ron

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    Thanks Mike. I'll be sure to have sunglasses and a full face helmet when riding my bike when I'm blowing through all of these red lights in Sactown.....:D
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  20. bikeslut

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    I didn't do it on purpose, but my truck was registered in my wife's name... I was leaving a home depot with a load and had some jerk tailgating me as i hit the yellow light... HE couldn't see the light, and there was 5 feet of plywood ready to guillotine the guy if I stopped. so I ran it, almost on purpose (so did he)

    strobe flashed, and I knew i would be getting a ticket sent to the house but it never happened... I think for the fact truck was in the wife's name... they saw a REALLY ugly lady driving the car and didn't want to dogpile
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