Rekluse EXP

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by CrazyLegs, Dec 11, 2011.

  1. Alleycatdad

    Alleycatdad Unbunch yer panties!

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  2. sito

    sito Time to start the next chapter!

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    Just came back from the Death Valley Noobs ride 300+ miles and the Clutch work perfectly :clap. I did not baby her and not one issue. Very Happy. Works just like my 530. :evil this is a great mod for the bike bikes.
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  3. Alleycatdad

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    So does this mean it's best to just start out with it as-delivered; the changes you guys made have been taken into account?

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  4. bikyto

    bikyto Dans le doute...gaz!

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    Yes the changes have been reflected in the new kits!:clap
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  5. crazybrit

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  6. cjracer

    cjracer AWD please!!

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    That's great to hear! :freaky
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  7. Dagwood_55

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    For the 990 ADV, are you guys leaving it at the Manufactors recomendations?? Stock Recluse plate/springs and 1 turn in on the slave??

    If not "stock rekluse", how are you tweaking it??
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  8. bikyto

    bikyto Dans le doute...gaz!

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    Clarifications to my previous post (which I deleted ... Because it might be confusing):

    My kit (for a 990) came with the 990 springs and wedges installed. In the medium settings as recommended in the manual. And the 950s have a different set of springs and wedges included in the kit so that you setup the kit with their other recommendation for the 950 (heavier springs and wedges).
    I am at 1 1/8 warm for free play.
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  9. Dagwood_55

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    OK, got my Rekluse EXP installed in my 07 S.

    I first installed per Rekluses instructions with 1 turn in adjustment. But I had a bit of clutch slippage, so I backed it off. I'm now running it at 3/4's of a turn in . Seams fine to me.

    I've had Rekluses on my last few bikes. And I've been one of their biggest fans. I've thought bikes ought to come with Rekluses on them. But they've always been on smaller dirt bikes. This is my first on a large bike.

    But now I'm having second thoughts. I'll see if I can explain this: I know all about the freewheeling down hill and how to overcome it with a blip. And its never been a problem for me. But today I just got back from a 2 day trip with some fairly ruff stuff for a large DS bike. So, I'm going down long, ruff, rocky downhills, that I need to be in 2nd gear. I blip the throttle to engage the clutch, it holds for 2-4 seconds and then disengages and then I'm freewheeling. So I blip the throttle again and over and over.

    Is there an adjustment to cause the Rekluse/clutch to stay hooked up when descending?? Or do I just pretend I'm riding a 2 stroke, grab both brakes, hold on and hollar yeepee!!

    I know most of what we do is trade offs, but I'm thinking the gain of having the Rekluse at slow speed manuavering is less than the trouble of freewheeling down hill. Don't know if Rekluse still has a 30 day buy back, but I may find out.

    Thoughts from you guys that have had your EXP's longer.
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  10. CrazyLegs

    CrazyLegs In midlife crisis.

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    So it sounds to me like maybe first gear would have done it. In second you'll run lower engine RPM's, so whenever you get down to disengage speed, it will, well, disengage. Maybe you can fine tune it a bit to get a lower engage/disengage point. But if you get PRM down to idle speed, it will have to disengage.


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  11. Dagwood_55

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    That's true. But I did talk to Rekluse, (they are so good with live phone help!) They said once it hooks up, or engages it should stay hooked up, for the most part. You're right if the rpm's drop, it will disengage, but if going down a fair hill, the rpms should stay up and it should stay engaged. I gonna try 3 silver springs on one side.

    But I've got to get around some hills to try it out, no hills in my yard....
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  12. Alleycatdad

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    ...unless you lock the rear wheel on that descent. With the rekluse, you can control engine speed with your right foot.

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  13. MotoTex

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    Does the Rekluse offer any "Slipper Clutch" effect for downshifts or throttle-down in curves on pavement?

    I'm thinking this is probably not the case, but reading up on my wife's Duc Monster's clutch I could see how the slipper could be a nice thing.

    I get the occasional lockup on the rear wheel when decelerating/downshifting. It can make doing so in a fast turn a little more dramatic than I would prefer. :eek1

    No biggie, but if I could have it smoother than the OEM clutch that would be sweet, especially if the Rekluse provides this as well as the low-speed off-road benefit.
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  14. biggus

    biggus Been here awhile

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    Installing my EXP tonight and the directions are not all that clear.

    The first or last fiber disk, however you look at it. Does this matter which way it faces? Is one side different for the aluminum pressure plate and one side for the steel disk?

    The directions say to stack the last disk the same as the others in the basket. Is this correct or does this disk turn to set into the short recesses of the basket? Never messed with clutch internals before.

    Also no reference to use any Locktite on the pressure plate bolts. Should blue or red be used or not needed.

    Had to search OC for the torque specs for the bolts as well, they only specified for the clutch cover.

    Thanks
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  15. biggus

    biggus Been here awhile

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    Went to bed at 3am and was hoping to have an answer when I woke up at 11am. :cry:cry:cry

    Read and reread threads so now I am going to open her back up and go for it.

    Pulled the whole clutch pack out disk by disk. The notch in like every 3rd ear of the friction disk, is this serve a purpose? Oil lubrication? Just to be able to use a pick and pull them out?

    I seen in one of CJ's pics or videos, can't remember, all these notches in the friction disks were all in line. When I took mine apart I noticed they were staggered and I could not figure out if it was a specific pattern. I reinstalled them with the notch in one line and making sure the drive disk was installed with the rounded edge facing in to the motor as it was removed.

    I set the EXP Friction Disk up for the 950 as recommended. Installed the Heavy Wedge Weights and 6 Medium Red Springs as stated in the instructions.

    Has anyone with a 950 and the EXP found they needed to replace 3 Red Medium Springs with 3 Blue Heavy Springs after the additional Spacing Washers had been included in the Kit?

    :ear:ear:ear
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  16. cjracer

    cjracer AWD please!!

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    My thoughts.
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  17. biggus

    biggus Been here awhile

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    Thanks CJ.

    I got it all back together and took it for the Clutch Break In ride...

    I am not sure if it is my jetting, stock with a Uni Pre Filter or if the clutch was slipping but I am opting for jetting.

    Scenario...I cracked opened up the throttle and the bike would take off to 3k RPM without any problems then would seem to stall there like I hit a dead spot then would slowly rev up to 5k to 6k RPMs, all the time the throttle being wide open. Time after time it did this. In neutral there was not hesitation when I rev it to 5k to check the free play.:ear
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  18. cjracer

    cjracer AWD please!!

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    If you're running stock jetting with the Uni, you most likely are a little rich.

    Bike fully warmed up?

    I've not had that issue.
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  19. Somber

    Somber Been here awhile

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    EXP installed on my 2010 Adv R, no drama, set it up per included instructions, been riding for a week, seems to be working well.

    I saw some questions about engine braking on the street, in my experience with the way the unit is working on my bike, I can "downshift" and backdrive the drivetrain to keep everything engaged and enjoy standard engine braking, I could purposefully let the bike get into freewheel mode and coast where it would require a throttle blip to "reengage", but that isn't the norm for me, 99.9% of the time I'm riding as I did before I got the Rekluse, but not having to mess with the clutch lever, and very much enjoying pulling up to the gate at work and not having to hunt for N so I can show my badge, enjoying the low speed control with effectively no fear of stalling, etc...

    so, all good for me thus far. I'm a bit worried about super steep descents, because they can give me the willies regardless, but I'm hoping/assuming I'll adjust to that also, and yes the rear brake works pretty well on this bike for those situations so hopefully even if I never get the hang of keeping the Rekluse engaged I can work around it.

    So far I'm very happy with the change.

    Just as a note - this is my first autoclutch on any bike, so I may be easily impressed...
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  20. cjracer

    cjracer AWD please!!

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    Great input from a new user.

    As you have found this stays engaged as long as your RPMS are above IDLE. Same for steep desents. Run low gear. The Rekluse will only be able to hold you back so much, just as a stock clutch would, the lower the gearing the slower you can go before it free wheels.

    You can drag the rear brake now with less worry of locking up the wheel and killing the bike. Concentrate on your line and less on your clutch control.

    Safe travels,
    cj