Review of 2012 Moto Guzzi Stelvio NTX

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by leafman60, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    Thanks for the question. From my review-

    In hot weather, yes, you can feel heat from the left side. This is similar to the heat you will feel from both cylinders of a BMW in similar conditions. Fuel injection tweaking will greatly help this issue but, for most riding, it is not a big thing. Hey, when the day is hot, everything is hot.


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  2. leafman60

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    Thank you too. I found that original thread from 3+ years ago. You will see the similarity with my current assessment.

    Look here:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=446458&highlight=leafman+stelvio

    Also, I found another thread started by someone with their own assessment on the '09 model.

    Look here:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=515332&highlight=leafman+stelvio
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  3. Sock Monkey

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    Leaf,

    Not sure if the new 8V motor is similar to the "old" 4V motor in this respect, but on my '08 Norge I noticed a fairly significant reduction in radiated heat when running the prescribed 10W60 full synthetic oil vs. lighter weight and/or blended oils. Does the NTX owner's manual state 60W full synth??? :ear

    And no, I don't mean to start an oil threadjack....just adding my experience re. big Guzzi twins and heat. :D

    -SM
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  4. leafman60

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    Yes, it comes with 10-60 synthetic and that's what I will use.
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  5. silvergoose

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    Leafman60, you have done a great job reviewing the 2012 stelvio. I recently bought a 2009 Stelvio and I can say from my experiences that it is a greatly overlooked machine.

    Buying my 2009 from Moto International in Seattle. I rode back home to Ft Smith,AR. I rode almost 2200 miles through all types of weather (March 30- April 3) and the bike handled the gusting winds and rain with out a care. I look forward to the day I buy the next Stelvio, a NTX.

    Again, Leafman 60, very good write up.
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  6. oalvarez

    oalvarez Resident Raggamuffin

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    Leaf, first and foremost, congrats on the new NTX. It is the one bike that I would give my Multistrada up for, and would love to recreate my '09 Stelvio (Guzzitech modded) in this new package. I missed on the one at my local dealer (sold to Asia) but I'm fairly certain they could source another. A brilliant re-design, I just love the improvements that they made.

    edit: the only thing i don't like about the motorcycle is its weight....spend time in/on/around a MTS and you'll know what i mean.

    Great write-up, thanks for sharing. :clap
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  7. uzidzit

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    i am picking mine (orange) up on sat.
    I read the factory service manuals for the Explorer, Goose, Caponord, Tenere, 990, 1200 touring s.
    And have test rode all of them, the explorer,990, and tenere on an extended ride.

    This is the best choice for me and by far the easiest to maintain at home of the lot, and was the most bike for the dollar, the explorer was my second choice (I would have picked it maybe if the money was closer) but it was not $4.5k better:huh, And our dealer for Trumpets in kville is just ok. a little suspension work and it should need nothing else but my Kristas moved off the strom onto it. I will keep you updated. Thanks for the write up I am glad someone else out there thinks it is a pretty fine machine.

    Ps there is One more for sale Lava black at riders hill:wink:
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  8. MoToad

    MoToad Been here awhile

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    Really getting a kick out of mine. The Mistral can just gives me bigger smiles. One thing that had been understated so far is the ride of this machine. Admittedly I have yet to hit the dirt and it is not really my intention but, on the highway, it shines. Get your revs and your speed up a bit and it just starts acting like Seabiscuit. Just wants to open that stride. And after having a rock of a seat under me with my F800GS, this one puts me in the lap of luxury. It's a given that it's kind of a big, ugly sucker for a seat but, hey. You don't see it when your sitting on it. Then there's that rock steady ride. I've had the crap knocked out of me by crosswinds on both a KLR and an F8 but, the other day I got into some pretty heavy duty stuff here and the MG barely budged. Ya gotta love it!:D
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  9. Blakebird

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    disagree.

    not a bike you just tweak the EFI on - quite a few threads on it in other forums.
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  10. leafman60

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    It's not something you do in your garage but there are sources for it. Todd on west coast and at least another guy in Virginia. I know more than one Guzzi owner who had his ECU flashed. Their bikes ran better and produced significantly less engine heat.

    Mine is not particularly hot-running but I'm having the re-flash done largely because I am changing exhaust and intake. We will see. I will report back.
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  11. Blakebird

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    Todd's tweak is not cheap at $500.
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  12. leafman60

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    No, you are correct on that. I didn't say it would be cheap. There is, however, another alternative that I am investigating. I will report back.
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  13. WitchCityBallabio

    WitchCityBallabio Guzzi weirdo

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    Great write up Leafman. Thanks for sharing.


    Guzzi's march towards world domination continues.....


    :D
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  14. leafman60

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    Lol, they have a long trip ahead of themselves !
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  15. kirb

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    Guzzi has really learned something that other MFG should also note. They listened to their customers, took the complaints, and fixed them. Larger tank, fixed heat grip controls, better headlight lamp looks, etc. They took a fantastic package and made it better...and cheaper. The bike is really a fantastic all around bike with little downsides. You don't hear any "it would be a condender if it were not for X,Y,Z". I was impressed enough to put down a deposit. I can not WAIT for it to show up.

    They lowered the price of the Griso SE down to $12.5k and managed to make a fantastic looking bike even better with a leather seat and spoke rims.

    Cali gets a full re-design next year.

    V7 racer is selling better than expected and gets a new revised engine soon.

    They are on a roll. Corn cob pipes and red suspenders are a thing of the past.
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  16. catneck

    catneck Rabid Motorcyclist

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    Thanks for the excellent review, did I miss the economy comparison? I see the range is similar, so I would assume mid 30s mpg from both?
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  17. leafman60

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    I have not made a good fuel mileage test yet. I will do so and post later, after the bike is through the break-in period.

    With the '09 model, I tended to get high 30's-low 40's. The problem is that this thing is difficult to ride conservatively for maximum fuel efficiency.
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  18. Blakebird

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    My mileage has ranged between 39-41 around town/commuting and 42-45 on the road - pretty consistently.
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  19. onarock

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    Thank you for the good review
    What about the service intervals on the NTX ? Oil changes, valve check...
    How easy is it to perform service if you are not a mechanic ?
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  20. Blakebird

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    Valve lash checks at 10k kilometers (6,200 miles). Easy to check, and if adjustment is required it's a simple task. Screw & locknut, not shim and bucket.
    Once the engine has a few miles on it and is breaking in.... adjustments will likely be required less and less. The checking is easy to do.

    Oil and filter changes are like any other bike - the specified oil is a 10w-60 full synthetic (Motorex is $18/liter and it takes 3.5)
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