Rev'it Horizon Jacket and Pant thread -- Follow for updates and review!

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by DJSponge, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    I got a Horizon jacket a few weeks ago so I'll be giving updates on it.

    It hit all the points that I wanted in a wet weather/cool weather jacket. For me a back pocket is absolutely necessary to put a hydration reservoir in. Also having proper flow through vents is. I love the fact that I can open and close the vents on my Rev-It Sand on the fly and this looks like it can do that (except for the back one which is fine since I'll just leave it open in warmer weather or tough riding). I love the Sand in hot weather too! Some say opening the front and snapping it is tough though.
    A collar you can also fold back is also on my mandatory list. I can open and close it on the fly no problem. I can't believe some high end jackets still don't have a fold back option. :huh Is that just me? Venting options on the fly!

    It's the really (really) rainy season here and I ride all year round so it'll get lots of wet weather testing :lol3
    So far so good with a couple hours in the rain.

    I have a Sand jacket as well as I mentioned and I really like the fit of Rev-It so that was a factor. The sizing is a little different than the Sand though. The sleeves are a little bit shorter and the shoulder width is a bit narrower so I went up to a large from a medium. That way I have room to fit in a proper back protector and I have a little more layering space too. I think the material has less give too since it's laminated with the w/b membrane...of course my Sand is 1.5 yrs. old:deal.

    I'll update later...

    Thanks,

    Dave
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  2. outsidein

    outsidein Been here awhile

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    The Horizon looks like a great jacket but the abrasion resistance / materials choice seems a bit cheap. For example polyester 500D/750D for a jacket in this price range.
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  3. toowheels

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    The 500D is only the stretch panels above the elbow. The whole jacket is really 750D which is roughly the same as others. The Sand has that too. I know what you're saying though but there is more to it than the published numbers. That doesn't necessarily reflect on the quality of the material. This 750D seems pretty good. It's definitely not as nice as the 1200D PWR wax elbows on the Sand though! I've high-sided in that one and the elbows don't have a mark!
    I work a bit in the tech outdoor clothing industry so I know there can be more to fabric than meets the eye...or numbers.

    That being said I'm amazed at how few jackets seem to combine what I want.

    Velcro on the collar has destroyed my XD's bottom fabric. I love Rev-It's snap collar...but not everybody does?
    As I mentioned a collar that can be held open!

    I could go on...

    Maybe I should start making jackets too :lol3

    Dave
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  4. Avocet

    Avocet Been here awhile

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    I have a Revit Sand jacket that I like very much, except for having to deal with the waterproof liner. I have avoided replacing it with a jacket that is waterproof without a liner because I've been afraid it would be too hot when riding in hot weather. I find the Sand jacket warm but acceptable in hot weather, so if the Horizon is similar it could be exactly what I've been looking for. Is anybody who owns both a Revit Sand and a Horizon jacket able to give me some idea how the two compare in hot weather? Thanks.
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  5. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    Although I haven't used the Horizon in the hot weather because I only got it recently I don't think there's any way it will be comparable to the Sand in the hot weather. It just doesn't have the venting and the laminated fabric can't possibly breathe as well as the non-laminated Sand. Of course it doesn't get as hot (or humid!) here as it does out there but when I'm in the interior of BC (90*F+) and if I'm riding slower tech stuff I'm using an armor jacket with just a jersey over top and leave the Sand at camp.

    My plan is to run the Sand in the warm - hot temps and the Horizon for rain/cooler temps.
    Some longer trips will just be a take yer chances deal. :deal

    It's definitely hard to find one to do it all especially without spending $1000.00 :eek1

    If you find it let me know!!

    Dave
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  6. Avocet

    Avocet Been here awhile

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    Thanks for that reply Toowheels. I agree with your point that a jacket like the Sand or Horizon will not be the best choice in very hot weather, so when I'm on a local trip in the summer I will typically bring only a mesh jacket. I found that slipping on the waterproof liner from the Sand jacket under the mesh jacket does fine for quick summer showers too.

    The problem arises when on an extended trip when I only have room to take one jacket along. For example, I've made a few cross country trips where I've encountered 30 degree temperatures in the mountains and temperatures in the 90's crossing Nebraska, not to mention rain, fog and hail. The Sand jacket, along with a Gerbings liner, has done reasonably well under those circumstances. It's hotter than I want it to be on those hot days, but it's bearable. My biggest complaint about it is there isn't always a place, or time, where you can stop and put in the waterproof liner before it starts to rain. It can be tempting to just put the liner in if there is any possibility of rain, but on hot days with intermittent rain , where sometimes I want the liner and sometimes I don't, I would really like a better solution.

    I'm hoping that the Horizon jacket might not be much worse than the Sand on dry hot days, when I can open the vents, but will allow a quicker transition from vented to waterproof on those days with intermittent rain. Also, I would like it if the jacket didn't become saturated in the rain. I can open the vents on the Sand even when the waterproof liner is in place, and do feel some air flow, but most of it gets blocked by the liner. The vents in the Horizon would seem to be better when opened, than open vents in the Sand when wearing a rain liner.

    It is my fear, however, that the Horizon won't breathe as well as the Sand, as you have pointed out. The venting capability of the two jackets look similar though.
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  7. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    Yes I know exactly what you're saying and that's what I want too!! :deal

    From what I've read most call the Horizon good up to 80ish.

    I think the big place the Horizon will fall short is that there are no sleeve vents. Yes you can open the cuffs a bit but with handguards I don't expect a lot of airflow out of it. I'd like to see mini versions of the chest vents on the sleeves. It's not in the line for summer 2013 though, there are no changes to the Horizon. I've heard that Gore wants to license Rev-It's Aquadefence system.

    You should check out the Klim Latitude Misano maybe? Although it has no chest vents, you can't fold the collar back (!?) and there is no back pocket for my hydration reservoir so it's out for me. Then if you wear a small pack with one you block the rear vent...argh. Two vertical vents would flow more air and work with a pack if needed. I've heard a few reports of the sleeve vents leaking too.

    Olympia's AST (I've read of those leaking at the sleeve too) and First Gear I'm not sure about. Neither of those fit me well since they are too boxy.

    Then there's the Badlands. REALLY heavy though which supposedly you don't notice with the kidney belt done up. At least it ticks more boxes.
    Rev-It Everest would be an option too.

    Then it just goes up in $$ from there.

    Am I missing any?

    So I'm back to starting my own clothing line to go with my parts...:lol3

    Dave
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  8. Avocet

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    It does seem amazing that none of the dozens of manufacturers are getting it quite right. We want a waterproof jacket with real vents, not vents that are blocked by a waterproof membrane, but vents that open all the way through. And we want them on the arms, back and chest. The Horizon seems to have gotten closer than anybody so far, but there's still room for improvement.

    One thing that puzzles me about the horizon is the zippers under the flaps of the main front pockets. My Sand jacket doesn't have them but the pockets are still waterproof. Why add zippers that add cost and make it more difficult to get into the pockets? Sometimes I think Revit throws away good ideas just to be different on the newer design. Anyway, I may still give the Horizon a try. It may be worth being hot sometimes on long trips, for the convenience of being waterproof without a liner.
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  9. toowheels

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    Only the left pocket has a zip and velcro. The right one is like the Sand and velcro only.
    My Sand pockets are not waterproof. It's odd that they went through the trouble to seam seal the pocket liners on the Sand when the fabric is not waterproof in sustained rain.

    Dave
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  10. KonnMan04

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    I'm new to this site and new when it comes time to picking out winter gear. I'm looking for a jacket that will keep me warm in temps that go down to mid / high 20's. I live in Brooklyn and work in Manhattan. My morning commute is 30 min at most and I leave for work around 6am. I have a Joe Rocket jacket that I use during late spring to early fall, when temps start to hit mid 40's is when I need to put on layer and start to get ready for my bike to go to sleep. I already wear a long sleeve collar shirt (work requirement) and adding a thick sweater makes it very hard to zip my jacket up. I also use a neck flees since my collar is short cut. So I'm looking at Teknic, Rev'It and Olympia as my winter only gear. My most important need is to wear as little added clothing as possible over my shirt and my neck doesn't get called. I want to avoid wearing a neck warmer. Being waterproof is a plus.
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    To sum up: My #1 thing is being warm during my morning (30 min) commute, #2 staying dry, #3 - good protection. Anything above 50's doesn't concern me as I will be using my Joe Rocket gear.

    From everyones experience, can I get what I need from these brands Teknic; Rev'It or Olympia? How high do collars go? Will they stop wind from entering or do I still need to wear my fleece neck warmer? Are there any other issues I should be aware before I buy?
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    I get hot easy and I can bare cool temp well, but have a limit.
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    My choices are:
    Teknic - Freeway (Hi-Viz)
    Rev'It - Horizon (Hi-Viz)
    Rev'It - Energy (Hi-Viz)
    Rev'It - Legecy (Hi-Viz)
    Olympia - AST2 (Hi-Viz)
    BMG - Discovery

    Hi-Viz is for being viziable and safe but will consider other colors.

    I will be heading over to RevZilla store in PA to exchange my Olympia X-Moto this Saturday.
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    Also any pance recomindation is appriciated as well. Keep in mind that this gear is WINTER USE ONLY!!!
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    Thank you for everyonce help.
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  11. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    I can only speak about the Horizon and I think temperature wise it should work for you. I have been down to 0* Celsius and it's worked well.
    As far as the collar is concerned I still use a neck warmer with it. I really like Rev'It's collars but it's not quite as tall as the Sand so I find I need it. Judging by the pics I think only the Discovery, Freeway and possibly the AST2 have better neck coverage.

    Cheers,

    Dave
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  12. keiji

    keiji Long timer

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    Any updates on this suit? How's it holding up now that we're knee deep in summer?

    It seems to be going on closeout in several places....
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  13. TBickell

    TBickell Been here awhile

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    So now that Rev-it has discontinued the Horizon there are some out there for as low as 290 dollars US. I have read all the pros and cons of this coat and wanted one 2 years ago when they were twice as much money. I still want a water-proof outer jacket that is good for long( multi day, multi state) touring rides that can handle the rain and cold but be tolerable on a 85 degree day. Is this the jacket? I want to like the new Klim Misano Latitude but the venting seems minimal and that neck still looks like an afterthought on a 600 dollar technical jacket. Am I missing something. I have the Rev-it Cayenne Pro gear and I really like it and it has served me well. I have not used it in a day long deluge but I will say that with the liners zipped in I have been warm and dry even in a freak snow squall at the Grand Canyon this year. I just don't want to fiddle with the liner every time the weather changes..
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  14. DJSponge

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    Still have my set. Works great in all conditions. I might be selling the bike in the spring though, in which case I'll be selling off a LOT of gear.
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  15. TBickell

    TBickell Been here awhile

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    Thanks.. sorry to hear your getting out of riding. Hope it's not due to an accident..
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  16. ianz5150

    ianz5150 Adventurer

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    I may decide to pick up a Horizon Hi Viz jacket. Anyone have any new input after a few years of use? Mostly concerned with the rubber vent gizmo, does it leak? How did your shell WPing hold up over a few years? Do glove gauntlets fit fairly easily under the jacket cuff? Can you make the jacket cuff nice and tight to fit a gauntlet over it when it's not raining?

    I was also checking out a closeout Energy Hi Viz model jacket for around $200, the Horizon is around $325, is the Horizon worth the difference? I do want the Hi Viz in either one, I also have a Rev'It Vapor jacket that came out this year, but it's black and a sport type cut.

    I'm 5'7" and range from 150 to 155 pounds with 39"-40" chest. My Vapor jacket is a large and fits well, I think a large Horizon should be alright? What say you?
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  17. OTB

    OTB Oh fer Chrissakes

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    I have a black Horizon size medium. I'm 5'6" 150 lbs. It fits perfectly. It's never leaked, even in the worst rain. It also covers a very wide temperature range. I was worried that it would be too hot in the sleeves without arm vents. But, it channels air well. My only complaint is the Velcro on the wrists. They just come loose easily. Overall it's a great jacket.
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  18. ianz5150

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    Thanks OTB. Yeah, now I'm wondering if a large will be a bit too big.:shog I've only found a large for the Horizon. Probably ok because Rev'It generally seems to run small, and my Rev'It Vapor jacket is a large(still fits well with just a little room). I'm running a solid 150 lbs. now. I've lost a little over 25 lbs. in three months. Back to where I should be, but I gotta re-figure my sizes. :clap I was in the Rev'It XL Vapor pants and could probably drop to the Large now.
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  19. TBickell

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    I wanted the Hi-viz Horizon a year ago and could not find any (except some goofy european company that could not process a credit card) so I went with the Energy which was much cheaper ( I think about 180 bucks). I am 5'7 and about 165 these days and the medium fits great. I love the fit of Rev-it stuff. I have not been through hours of rain but it seems to hold the water out. The venting is just ok as it vents to the attached liner. That is the issue with jackets that have a drop liner attached internally. They are just never going to be able to flow a lot of air. I'd say with the thermal liner in it's good to 45 degrees.. Maybe 85 in the summer if your moving.. I thought it was a good buy
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  20. be_original

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    I really appreciate when people review stuff however all the reviews of the jacket seem to have skipped what i would think is the most important feature. Alot of jackets are waterproof in the sense you get home dry however you then need a weight lifter to help remove the jacket and a few hours to dry it out. if you stop off for lunch you then have to put on a nice heavy cold jacket that feels wet regardless of whether it actually soaked through. A few jackets claim a laminated outer most like the goretex ones cost an arm and a leg at which point you might as well buy a rukka. this jacket is cheap however does the water repel as it claims to or is it the same as any other waterproof jacket. if it repels its worth every penny and would keep me super toasty in the uk.
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