Richmond Va chatter

Discussion in 'Southeast, The Lair of the Dragon - The Blue Ridge' started by mikeinrichmond, Dec 19, 2008.

  1. OldnoGPS

    OldnoGPS Just a sightseer

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    SST is actually Super Slow Tard (Bob. C.) ADV'er in Charlottesville since '04 or so.
    Funny, I know both SST's :1drink
    Hey SST Ric in Richmond!
  2. ddlewis

    ddlewis Long timer

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    http://law.justia.com/codes/virginia/2011/title46-2/chapter8/46-2-909/

    says:

    2011 Code of Virginia
    Title 46.2 MOTOR VEHICLES.
    Chapter 8 Regulation of Traffic (46.2-800 thru 46.2-947)
    46.2-909 Riding on motorcycles, generally


    Universal Citation: VA Code § 46.2-909 (2001 through Reg Session)

    46.2-909. Riding on motorcycles, generally.
    Every person operating a motorcycle, as defined in 46.2-100 excluding three-wheeled vehicles, *shall ride only upon the permanent seat attached to the motorcycle, and such operator shall not carry any other person. No other person shall ride on a motorcycle unless the motorcycle is designed to carry more than one person, in which event a passenger may ride on the permanent seat if designed for two persons, or on another seat firmly attached to the rear or side of the seat for the operator. If the motorcycle is designed to carry more than one person, it shall also be equipped with a footrest for the use of such passenger.


    *emphasis added by me..
  3. bwalsh

    bwalsh UUU, UUU!!!

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    I'd love to but I live in Front Royal.
  4. btblueskies

    btblueskies BTBlueSkies

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    I read a post not long ago on this forum about someone alerting us to a 'Motorcycle Advocacy Group' here in Virginia that was trying to get some helmet laws changed.... I wonder if this is something we can ping them about as a possible issue to formally consider. Does anyone remember what that group is... it's hard to search through pages and pages on this forum... at least for me until I get better at it I suppose.
  5. bwalsh

    bwalsh UUU, UUU!!!

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    The MSF course teaches you to stand while crossing over an obstacle(2x4, etc) in one exercise and it's just to get across the obstacle, not continue to stand.
    (ADV riding, as in off road?) yes, you may want to stand in that situation but it's off road...


    From the VA. DMV handbook...

    http://www.dmv.state.va.us/webdoc/pdf/dmv2.pdf

    Unfortunately it is illegal to stand on the pegs...
  6. jgiacobbe

    jgiacobbe Long timer

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    So the day I rode around with my seat not bolted down I was illegal:D
  7. Sic Semper Tyrannis

    Sic Semper Tyrannis Plays with Banjos, Boats and Bikes...

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  8. Guy Young

    Guy Young Long timer

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    Faulty equipment too, Ref.: missing rear brake caliper pin. :rofl

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  9. ddlewis

    ddlewis Long timer

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    It doesn't say bolted down, just "attached". Yours was firmly attached by the law
    (of gravity :D)

    I found the same thing bwalsh just posted.. DMV motorcycle handbook and the MSF basic rider course use exact same language re: obstacles or rough uneven surfaces.. "rise slightly off the seat". Not super helpful for bb's case.

    Guess it comes down to: The judge, how rough was the road and how long were you standing on the pegs.
  10. Dolly Sod

    Dolly Sod Red Clay Halo

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    He's not the first I've heard of getting a ticket in VA for standing. I've read about 1 or 2 others, think they were reduced from reckless to improper operation or some such.
  11. Guy Young

    Guy Young Long timer

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    Ditto that.

    And I'm just as guilty (on occasion) for not "having full control of my vehicle."

    I have a "bad" habit of taking both hands off the bars (on occasion) when I have the cruise engaged and.I feel it's safe. One particular day I had them off for a nice stretch of 4-lane Rte. 15 north of Williamsport, PA on my way to a rally in Wellsboro, PA. Early evening, slight drizzle, no traffic in my lanes, and I was happy as poo just booking along singing(?) in my helmet. Probably rode that way for 10+ miles. It was just one of those moments. :clap

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  12. jgiacobbe

    jgiacobbe Long timer

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    I wonder if perhaps we all missed the real point.

    Don't go around town especially VCU standing on the pegs. I've seen most of us do it for extended periods of time out on the back roads. I'm just as guilty as everyone else of stretching my legs going down the road. Truthfully, I figured if I was ever stopped I'd just have to politely explain that I was stretching my legs and giving the rear a break.

    It really sucks that it is rated as such a bad offense, but I assume it is written that way so they can go after stunters. I guess it also rules out there ever being a street legal trials bike in VA.
  13. toddzacker

    toddzacker NO FILTER

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    So Skychs said he was at training for the last for days in St Louis & sent me a pic...
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    I thought was a cool pic, and i felt a little jealous. I started reflecting on my training trip to Mexico last week...
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    I decided I wasn't that jealous any more. But if that prick starts sending pics of his trip to Australia that he went on for 4 weeks, then I'd be a little jealous...

    Let have a drink when you get back...
  14. pplassm

    pplassm Brace for collision!

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    Well. It WAS a VCU cop. I've heard a thing or two about them from other riders. None complimentary.
  15. pplassm

    pplassm Brace for collision!

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    Heh. I have one. A TLR200.

    OK, it DOES have a small seat. I doubt my knees bend enough to allow me to sit, though.

    Many years ago, I received a warning about coming to a complete stop on my street legal TL250. I neglected to put my foot down.
  16. bwalsh

    bwalsh UUU, UUU!!!

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    You would be amazed(saddened really) at what they will write reckless driving tickets for...damn near any moving violation can be interpreted as reckless driving in their eyes. It's a win, win for them as they can still reduce the ticket in court and still collect a good bit of coin.
    If bastardbiker(BB) fights it(reckless is a mandatory court appearance) instead of pleading guilty they will probably reduce it to improper driving, which is what he should have been charged with to begin with. If you can show it was not reckless to be standing on the pegs then it can't be reckless driving. This of course all depends on what mood the judge is in that day.

    It would still be best to at least talk to a lawyer if not hire one to defend you BB.
  17. Guy Young

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    IIRC, the Kawasaki Trials KT-250 was also street legal. We only sold one back in the mid '70s, so don't remember.

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  18. MotoMujer

    MotoMujer Been here awhile

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    BMW Performance Center's Dual-Sport Foundations class teaches riding on the pegs as an appropriate way to ride some surfaces (e.g., named but unmaintained roads that are rough), not just as a way to cross a 2x4 or other "feature". Which raises the question: is it seriously regarded by the letter of the law as flat-out "wreckless" when it is taught as a useful skill?
  19. skychs

    skychs chuck smith

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    Careful up there in RIC. Bad weather coming your way. Atlanta is shut down with tornados in the area. RIC is next.
  20. Guy Young

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    Thanks Chuck. Keeping an eye on it.

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