I had an RV dealer try some of the things mentioned. Wife and I looked at a C class. Got a price from dealer. It was used. Price was $41,000. Told them were going to look at another RV at a different dealer. This was said up front. Went to different dealer and didn’t like that RV. I called the 1st dealer back and said we would like to buy their unit. We agreed on $38,000 otd. When we came back the dealer then informed us the price would be $41,000 otd. I asked about the phone call we had and the agreed upon price of $38,000. Sales guy said he never agreed to that price. They had the sales contract already printed. We headed for the door. Sales guy just said get the hell out. Called the owner and told him the story. He said he would call me back after speaking with sales guy. He called back and offered us the unit for $39,000. I asked him if he understood that I wanted it for the agreed price. He finally said that they would take a loss and give it to me for $38,000. I told him that I would never buy anything from him ever. About a year later they were out of business. We used to have a bike dealership near us. When Honda had their $200 Red bonus days you could use that money on gear or reduce the price of the bike. I was buying an XR70 for my son. Dealer did not have one. Said he could not order a new one at that price because the model year changed. He then called other local dealers and found one for me. He sent me over to them. I think that was beyond service. I ended up buying many bikes, parts and service from them. It was a sad day when the owner retired and sold the dealership. It was bought by the type of people that I hate dealing with. No prices on bikes. Ask how much something was they wanted you to fill out a form with name, address email etc. Then you would get calls and emails asking if you were ready to buy. I miss being able to walk into dealership a call the GM by name. Walk over to parts and see same faces all the time. Most places you have to help the parts guys because they don’t know much.