Ride,store,fly..repeat

Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by PWRCRZR, Sep 3, 2012.

  1. Rhode trip

    Rhode trip guided by voices

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    Your insurance company (in country) should be able document the bike is a total loss. I would try to work through them even if it is a mechanical failure.

    A solution to this problem is to use a Bonded Warehouse and suspend the importation while you are out of the country. It is not cheap to do. In Costa Rica the cost seems to be about $5 per day.
    Once you have delivered the bike to the warehouse, you can take their form to customs and they will suspend the TVIP. Reverse the process when you return.
  2. mylsmkj

    mylsmkj Long timer

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    Wow! I think I'm going to rethink this whole plan, I'm going to rent a 250 tornado for $420 USD a week in Guatemala this winter, Maybe I'll just roll that way.
  3. EvilClown

    EvilClown Reality show stunt double Super Moderator

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    That's pretty tough to beat.

    In other news...just did a quick blast down to TN week before last. Not a lot of time and a short time to get there as the song goes. Really made me appreciate the relaxed pace that 'ride, store, fly, repeat' allows me otherwise.

  4. Sitheach86

    Sitheach86 Long timer

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    When I used to work cross country I would rent out garages from old ladies off Craigslist in different parts.

    I would need to order and mail many things and it gives good locations for that. I imagine it would work for bikes as well.
  5. tvpierce

    tvpierce Been here awhile

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    Maybe this was covered earlier and I just missed it. For those of you who remove the battery when you store the bike... what do you do with the battery?
  6. trailer Rails

    trailer Rails Washes hands before going to the bathroom

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    Depends on your preference. Remove and put on a charger. If there is no charger, you could leave the battery in place and remove the cables to prevent drain. You could also leave the batter in place and cables connected, with it on a charger. Or if the battery is newer and you are only going to be gone a couple/few months, just leave it alone.
  7. dcwilcox

    dcwilcox Been here awhile

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    I've not done anything special with the battery on my DR650. So far, so good. This bike should not have any parasitic drain when stored so its not the same issue as with some other bikes. That said, a dead battery on arrival is always a bit of concern and I'll just have to deal with that if/when that happens. YMMV
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  8. EvilClown

    EvilClown Reality show stunt double Super Moderator

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    The Stelvio gets disconnected and left in it. DR is left connected in the bike.

    Don't want to curse it but so far so good. YMMV.
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  9. Rhode trip

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    Same here. I have Shorai batteries in our bikes, and just left them connected since there is no drain. So far, so good.
  10. PWRCRZR

    PWRCRZR Grumpy Old Bastard

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    Well it's been over 5 years since i started this thread and I am finally getting closer to starting this. Been a few changes to my riding/bike situation over the last 5 years. First off found out the wife wasn't as fond of the RSFR plan as I am, I took her on a 10 day trip in 2012 and she had fun but decided moto travel was not on her short list. I have however found a good riding partner and we have done 4 annual spring rides between Maine and TN catching every twisty back mountain rd we could in 10 days. This past season we even stretched our ride all the way to the Ozarks. A lot of good roads and a lot of good memories but we decided we want to go further.

    At first we discussed trucking our bikes west to save on the back to back 1000+ mile days, then we looked at shipping our bikes My S10 and his FJR out west for 10 days of riding in Colorado. Then we started talking about 650'ish dual sports and riding some of the BCDR. Recently we started talking about just leaving from here in Maine and doing a RSFR trip. Our most recent plan is to head out next may and start down to TN and head across the TAT. Still looking at 10 days +/- per leg (depends on negotiations with our wives) I think we are hoping for a spring and late summer trip this year (don't tell our wives, they haven't heard about the second leg yet) I recently saw Butler maps is about to release a Mid Atlantic BCDR this winter, that may be our starting point.

    For bikes I think Chris will be on his KTM 640 that he has owned for a while and I am Picking up a DR650 this weekend to start prepping for the ride. Planning to add a larger tank and better seat as well as address bar ergo's. Haven't decided if I will jazz up the suspension or not. The basic plan is to get these bikes on the BCDR then TAT then do more BCDR out west. That being said I will probably moderately tweak the suspension.

    Chris is fairly experienced dirt ride I am however only modestly experienced. We both do however have similar riding styles. We go on these trips to ride, we are not much for site seeing, picture taking, or even long breaks. We tend to hit the road as early as I can drag him up in the morning and we get some coffee in us end of the day usually comes just before dark. This being said we tend to cover a lot of ground in a day. One of our big challenges is going to be guessing how much of the TAT we can cover on our first leg so we can plan storage and flights. I think once we get the bikes out west we might ease up our pace a bit and explore more. But for the first couple trips we plan to get out there.

    We are hoping to pack light. We prefer to hotel because of our long riding days but we are planning to take basic camping and cooking gear for when we can not find rooms. Obviously tools and repair items will need to be carried as well. We both agree we have enough extra gear that we can pack our bikes here and just leave all our gear and bikes in storage and fly home with just a bag of dirty clothes and a few items.

    I spent this past weekend at a camp out with Evilclown and DanZ so I picked their brains for ideas as they have both been doing this for a while. Always looking for other perspectives and ideas
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  11. GF-kam

    GF-kam Been here awhile

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    SHIP bikes out...then Ride, Store,Fly,....Repeat my friend.

    Having trailered our bikes from Virginia out west for the last three years in a row, I am strongly in the Store, Fly,..Repeat camp. This past summer I did the ID BDR and Glacier. On Yamaha WR250R. After this last trip, I left the bike in Utah. So, this coming spring or summer I'll be flying out to my bike and all gear.

    The novelty of criss crossing country has worn out for me. The ride is so brutal. Even in vehicle. For me, I took 4-5 days to trailer bike from VA to Rockies. On average 700 mile days. 12 hour days. Even with a car/truck, you'll be tired just getting to your destination. I cannot image doing that on a small bike. You should strongly consider shipping bike to a dealer or storage facility and flying out to bike.

    My wingman and I decided the economics or trailering / riding bikes doesn't make sense. For us anyhow. Especially if you take into account TIME. As the adage goes..."time is money". If you ride the bike out, your first stop out west will probably be a dealer to put a new set of tires and oil change.

    Either way ( trailer or riding bike out) you have following costs:

    - Additional 4-5 days to get bikes out.
    - Additional cost of 4-5 nights motel each way.
    - Cost of 2-3 meals per day.
    - Gas. Cost me $500 each way to trailer bikes.
    - Wear and tear on bikes or vehicle ( when trailering ).
    - I had to do oil change on my SUV when I got back home.
    - Additional cost of new set of tires, oil change, etc.

    Like you said, you better plan on extra 8-10 days just to get you bikes out ( if you ride). Either long 400 mile days on bike or 700 mile days in vehicle. About same if you trailer bike out.

    During my ride back from ID BDR this year, I was kicking myself for not having shipped bikes out. I could have flown back to Mid Atlantic after my trip.

    For me staying away from home 3-4 weeks has cascading costs....like keeping my dog in kennel and paying someone to cut my lawn. Etc. etc.

    ....cheers,

    GF-kam
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  12. PWRCRZR

    PWRCRZR Grumpy Old Bastard

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    I expect the ride out to be part of the adventure, that is why we are planning to ride the TAT. I don't expect to make it all the way out on the first leg. Still lots of planning to do.
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    GF-kam Been here awhile

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    I see. My bad.
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    It's the journey.:deal
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    This is pretty much how I worked it on my initial trip . . . the ride out west was the initial 'adventure'.

    Sounds like you are getting good advice and figuring out what will work for you!

    Here are a couple of thoughts that I have . . . as always, use what you like, skip the rest of my BS! :lol3

    I would think you'll want to look at how long to get to the TAT from your home location and then look at some TAT ride reports to see what kind of distances folks are making and compare that to your expected riding style. Then you've got to match that up with potential 'destinations' that include major airports and aren't too far off the TAT. Albuquerque, NM comes to mind as a possible as does Tulsa, OK and Little Rock, AR is also an option . . . depends entirely upon where you think you'll end up at 10 days.

    I personally don't like to cut it too close, because a flat tire or other mishap of any kind can cost me a 1/2 day or more!? Also, as I near the end of 8-10 riding days, I usually am wearing down physically . . . I've found continuous riding days have cumulative effect and its nice to have some easy days in there! A little extra time to make sure the bike and gear gets stored properly and to handle other logistics is a nice thing! YMMV

    My best 'tip' is to make a thorough inventory of everything you leave in the storage unit (tools, gear, food, etc.). Then when preparing for your next trips, you can match that up against your 'master packing list' to know exactly what to pack at home.

    Hope this helps!

    dcw
  16. PWRCRZR

    PWRCRZR Grumpy Old Bastard

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    I got to make a packing list?!
    I'm screwed :lol3

    I have been starting a mental list, thinking about gear duplicates I have and can use. I think it will help having a riding buddy we can each carry some and not have duplicates. One small set of cooking gear is good as well as one set of tools or air compressors.

    Riding distance is going to be the big X factor for sure.

    Thanks for the advice it is all good!:clap
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    PWRCRZR Grumpy Old Bastard

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    That's fine..still solid advice you had and it was our plan a month ago. I have never crossed the country on the ground, been as far as the Ozarks last spring. Still a lot to see.
  18. EvilClown

    EvilClown Reality show stunt double Super Moderator

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    Photos of what I left behind and even of what I took vs what I used have been a big help with what to schlep around and what to leave home the next time.
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  19. 3990

    3990 Adventurer

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    My plan is simple... Not international so, very simple.
    Just gonna ride from home in SW Ontario to British Columbia in August/September.
    Spend some time out there and park the bike at my sister's place in the Okanagan for the winter.
    Fly home.
    Come spring fly back out and ride home.
    Luckily for me sis' has a huge heated garage with lots of room.
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  20. sbeadg

    sbeadg Found in Fogo

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    Sweet!
    I'm planning a similar ride across the US in August. Leaving home early August and taking 3 weeks to see the Great Lakes, visiting a friend in Grand Marais, MN, another in Livingston, MT then up through the Rockies to Glacier NP and, if time permits, Banff in your lovely country.
    I want to make it to the coast of S. Oregon and ride down to about Patrick's Point, CA before heading to Lake Tahoe to store the bike in my nephews storage facility for the winter. It's not heated though...:dirtdog:vardy I've done extended trips before and I seem to average about 1,500 miles/week, taking some short days to explore interesting places.
    Summer of '19 I'll fly back and take a southerly route back. That's the plan, at least. It will be the 41st anniversary of my first and only cross country bike trip.