Thanks,, sounds like we might make good riding buddies,,, we should get together sometime. Maybe I'll stop by the event Saturday evening and see what's going on. I attended a dual sport ride when I first moved to the area,, it left from the Ingles in Mills River. When I got there everyone was standing around waiting for the "riders meeting" and I tried to make conversation with a few guys but really got the cold shoulder. Maybe because I was on a KTM and nearly everyone there was on BMW. Lack of trail riding down here compared to the northeast is really depressing. Up north there are power line trails and class 4 roads.... nothing like that down here. I had a friend in Waynesville years ago that I would visit and he had a bunch of stuff over that way but I guess that has all been shut down now.