Hi Uncle Tom, Yea, it is kind of wierd, but the SE is about 60 or so pounds lighter than the Adv. but it feels like alot more. And this bike only has 92hunny on the clock compaired to Flash at 30k. And these SE's are just plain cool!! Thanks everyone, Julius is at Dillons getting some serious upgrades and some cool new bling. This bike has an Recluse EXP auto clutch, it might be better on the Rug than the little bike?? Naw, what am I saying....... See you all soon!!