rnickymouse failure Mulholland fest

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by wiseblood, Jul 31, 2012.

  1. el queso

    el queso toda su base

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    Cool, rnickeymouse is in the house! I love your channel!

    The real problem with that particular turn is that riders come in hotter than they should and grab too much front brake, do something dumb like a mis-shift, have poor technique or pick a bad line. If they don't crash going in, they grab too much throttle on the exit and highside. Shit like that happens in twisties all over the place, but it's not recorded for my entertainment. :evil You wanna get a nice picture to impress your friends? Hit that corner slow and smooth and nobody will know you weren't hauling ass. :thumb
  2. KX50002

    KX50002 NooB, my ass

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    IDK, maybe he thought he was a little too hot and used a little too much front brake, lifting the rear wheel a little? If you listen the rpm increases as the brake light comes on.
    It's hard to tell for sure.

    Maybe new tires, not scrubbed in still coated with mold release agent??
  3. GI_JO_NATHAN

    GI_JO_NATHAN Long timer

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    Doesn't look like he's anywhere near the rear brake. Also the rear wheel starts hopping really bad at the same time it's coming around.
  4. slartidbartfast

    slartidbartfast Love those blue pipes

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    In slow motion, the bike starts to lay down a black mark before you hear the revs go up. It started to slide under power, at which point the crash was inevitable. An experienced racer might have ridden it out but this guy was hosed. I can't tell from this footage if the tires were new or not.
  5. daveinva

    daveinva Been here awhile

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    My last word on distractions:

    YOU, in your infinite awesomeness, would not be distracted by dozens of cameramen.

    THEY, in their infinite suckitude, ARE distracted by dozens of cameramen.

    PROBLEM: you are both sharing the same road.

    And you know it.

    Which means that if I'm going through those corners, enjoying my lovely Southern California day, totally prepared to pass by all those silly cameras and oddly parked bikes and cars waving as I go by... I'm still utterly terrified by the prospect that some OTHER schmuck is totally distracted by all that jazz and is wiping out into my lane as I turn the corner.

    Thus, I get tense.

    When I get too tense, I ride worse.

    When I ride worse, my chances of doing something stupid increase.

    Don't do something stupid (get DirectTV! :evil).

    Bottom line: the street is not the track. Doing track-like things on the street-- and having track-like accoutrements on the street, like goof-off corners photographed for sado-masochistic entertainment-- isn't as much fun as the keyboard riders like to imagine that it is.
  6. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

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    When you get frustrated at your cable provider you decide to go ride your motorcycle to clear your mind.
    When you ride your motorcycle you like to head to the curvy roads.
    When you head to the curvy roads near a big city you end up sharing the road with a bunch of numbnuts.
    Don't share the road with a bunch of numbnuts, get DirectTV.
  7. RockStorePhotos

    RockStorePhotos n00b

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    I mentioned an incident last weekend. There was a crash: http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/7730308444/in/set-72157630945051948 , but that is not the incident I was referring to. There was a mildly disturbing threat made against me by a fellow who lives near The Snake. I have witnessed, actually seen, this moron swerve across the double yellow to try and hit a Monster that was passing him. Some of the language directed my way and towards RNickey in this thread was of particular interest given the threat, as I only suspect who is behind it and just wanted to see if perhaps he was lurking here.

    In my own defense, there are some on this board who hate me less than most: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=809967

    As for the poster in this thread who postulated that no one was standing in the corner with strobes....:D

    I don't do what I do because I get off on mayhem. Crash photos don't sell. After all, who wants to remember crash? " Hey beautiful, wanna' go for a ride? This is me crashing on The Snake...." I do this because I am 54 years old, and realize that the spark of youth and associated exploits are fleeting. If you don't have a photo or video, it all becomes just fuzzy memories.
  8. DCrider

    DCrider Live from THE Hill

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    Damn lucky that last guardrail post was hit before and loose to absorb some of his head smack
  9. Falconx84

    Falconx84 Lurker

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    No hate here... stupid people do stupid things, why not catch it on film?

    You won't find me blaming a photographer unless they run out in the the road and throw rocks at me.
  10. KX50002

    KX50002 NooB, my ass

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    After watching this like 50 times, I'm still not sure what happened.
    I don't think braking was to blame.
    I think he initiated the turn too soon, then tried to tighten up in the middle of it.
    He looks tense just before the loss of traction, possibly he got scared? fixated on the guardrail?
    It looks like the turn is tighter than it appears as you enter it.
    I've never been there, just speculating from my desk.

    What do you guys think?
  11. daveinva

    daveinva Been here awhile

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    Allow me to explain: I'm NOT blaming the photographers. At least, not directly.

    Riders are responsible for their ride, at all times. Like the folks say up-thread, if you can't ride (or drive) with distractions, then you simply can't ride.

    That said, a lot of folks don't deal with distractions well. What's worse (for me, at least) is that some of us don't deal well with folks who don't deal with distractions well. Meaning, I wouldn't want to ride places like the Dragon of Mulholland when it's all busy and hoppin' not because I'm afraid of getting my picture taken doing something dumb, I'm afraid of the other people who go up there at that time to show off beyond their abilities. Again, it's one thing to be afraid of the road-- scary roads are fun when you survive them :D-- it's another thing to put yourself around people who can't ride or drive worth a spit.

    Unfortunately, cool roads = good biker magnets = photographer magnets = bad biker magnets = why the heck does ANYONE show up on a Saturday?
  12. daveinva

    daveinva Been here awhile

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    You can brake in a corner.

    You probably *shouldn't* brake when leaned over that far, however. You're pushing your luck at that point.
  13. fast4d

    fast4d Long timer

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    as somebody else mentioned....brake lights came on just before he lost the rear.

    I also checked and no fingers on the front brake lever....so that led me to believe rear brakes.

  14. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    Hey Paul.

    :wave

    It's AJ. It was nice to see you for five seconds last weekend.

    :lol3

    your operation has grown considerably since you took that pic of me on the GS years ago.... I still have it around somewhere...


    aha!

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  15. OldPete

    OldPete Be aware

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    IIRC, here in CA the plate has to be on the left.
    That CBR has it on the right. Meh!

    I learned to ride when the high desert was wide open in the '70s and the jump from 125 to 250cc was a biggie.
    My buddy's RM400 was insane. :eek1

    Point is... Most of these guys need track training on SV650 motorcycles. IMO
  16. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    how about we ALL could use some training in the dirt on an XR125, then graduated to track training on an SV650

    :dunno
  17. daveinva

    daveinva Been here awhile

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    Now THAT is an awesome photo. :thumb
  18. Calimari

    Calimari Been here awhile

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    It means you might want to check your math?

    Flatlanders as opposed to those hard men from the mountains of Agoura Hills?
  19. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    that was back when I caught paul walking up and down the road, snapping photos. As far as I know, this was the first one he distributed.

    he's taken LOTS of pictures of me over the years....

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    makes me miss my CB1100F....

    :cry
  20. rocker59

    rocker59 diplomatico di moto

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    If you look, he's definitely not on the rear brake.

    He crosses that pavement patch, then loses it.

    In previous vids, there appears to be some slight rippling of the pavement there, just after the patch.

    If you listen, you can hear him rolling on the throttle just after he crosses that pavement patch.

    He simply lost traction while accelerating.