Road Condition Inquiry - Urique to Batopilas

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  1. CalamariKid

    CalamariKid Been here awhile

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    I'm heading to Batopilas in March on a 1200GS. The plan is to head down via Urique and come back out via CHH209 through Samachique to CHH25. Yeah, i know it is a big bike for this. Ride what you got.

    Any recent intel on these roads, especially the road from Urique to Bato would be great.
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  2. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra

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    My intel is 2 years old. If you like to test the capabilities of your 1200GS, don't mind picking it up, and you have the ability to turn off ABS I'd say go for it. This is the route I'm talking about:
    https://www.google.com/maps/dir/27....2b964e29!2m2!1d-107.7362336!2d27.030387?hl=en

    From Urique and after Guapalayna (sp?), you cross a bridge and immediately ride a few gravelly switchbacks heading up. If you're okay with those, then you're good to keep going. It will probably be much like that for the rest of the ride. I'd plan on more than 2 hours and probably more than 3 hours actually on the bike for this ride.
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  3. CalamariKid

    CalamariKid Been here awhile

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    Yep - that's the road. OK - good info - thanks. I'll use the switchbacks after Guapalayna as a gut check. I'm giving myself a full day to make if from Urique to Bato to allow for picture taking, flower smelling and hopefully not JB welding...

    Now - If we can just keep from completely pissing off Mexico for the next month or so...
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  4. GS Trekker

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    My son and I rode this route from Urique to Batopilas in December 2016 on our lightweight dualsports (KTM500EXC & DRZ 400) The switchbacks heading up out of Urique and in pretty rough shape. Once you reach the saddle, it's mostly gravel with a few tough sections. There is at least one armed gate which you will likely be stopped at. Expect lots of livestock on the road. Also, I own a GS Adventure and an F800GS so for me, lighter was better on this route. Make sure you have tires with some grip going up the switchbacks. It is a fabulous decent into Batopilas. Next to the central square in Batopilas is a place to stay, Casa Monse. She is a wonderful lady, author, historian, and knows the local Tarahumara people. Please say "hi" to her from Dave and Brent (from Washington State) and let her know we visited 22 of the 31 States in Mexico, are doing well, and headed into Central America next. Cheers

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  5. MAXVERT

    MAXVERT OG on da OC

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    Since December it's been an extremely wet Winter here in he South West and in the Sierra Madres .
    I expect the road conditions to have worsened down in the canyons .
    I've ridden that route a couple of times and will be down there in a few weeks, on my 500 KTM riding a route that
    turns North after the switch backs .
    You will have to ride some very eroded steep sections with foot high ledges . The down hill will also have some very loose
    steep sections .
    Fun on my 690 KTM but the big bike following took a long time to get up these and that's with a very good
    off road rider at the bars .

    If your riding solo I hope your a big strong due with excellent off road riding skills and you bike has the proper tires .

    It's a spectacular ride and well worth the challenging , but if you have a problem help is many hours out so stay focused .

    But with all the mining activity down in the canyons these days :cry who knows the road could have been freshly bladed !

    Have fun , Max
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  6. CalamariKid

    CalamariKid Been here awhile

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    Appreciate the info Maxvert - I am not going alone - another rider is joining on a WR250. If he backs out then I'm going to go in an out via the 'paved' road on the East side of Bato. I have passable skills on dirt - ridden Big Bend multiple times - both Nat'l and State park - not an expert by any means, but am familiar with dirt, done single track on my WR. That said, I know how a big bike can be a huge handfull on steep rocky grades. I've put a fresh TKC 80 on the front and and a Scout K60 on the rear. If I struggle with the roads and feel unsafe outside of Guapalanya I'll punt and head back to Creel and go down on the East side. Great advice, I am looking forward to the challenge.
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  7. CalamariKid

    CalamariKid Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the info GSTrecker - I'll try to track down your friend at Casa Monse and pass on your greetings.
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  8. eddyturn

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    We were down there 2 weeks ago and the high road from Bat to UR was in just OK shape. Rocky as all get out but it seemed to be more of an issue with the downhill part into UR.
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    MAXVERT OG on da OC

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    Kinda puts the A in adventure No !

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  11. CalamariKid

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    Just got back - ended up taking the paved road into Bato and the dirt road to Urique. Road seemed to be in good condition (based on the fact that I was able to ride it and not kill myself), though the last miles into Urique (just past the real steep uphill with the big rocks) had JUST been scraped/graded which made it very loose - so quite challening on the loaded GS.

    Nonetheless, I did it - yea me. In fact I did about 10 miles on one cylinder after I inadvertartently knocked loose the electric plug on the left cylinder and though I knew the bike was running like crap and surging I had know idea what the problem was - thought I had burned out the clutch. Engine light was on - thought my goose was cooked. When I got to the steep uphill with the big rocks she just would not go up it. My riding partner went ahead and found a truck that came back and while we were trying to load the bike into the truck I saw the unplugged wire - popped it back in and was able to rip up the uphill no problem. Best feeling in the world.

    Plug must have knocked loose when I tipped over after reaching the top and just starting the descent - very steep downhill on a turn. It was at that point that the bike started surging - not a good feeling when trying to modulate the throttle on steep rocky downhills along a cliff -totally sapped my confidence for the duration until the prob was fixed. Ugh.

    Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful ride. The climb coming out of Urique on the well graded dirt road is stunning - just amaizing views. I found that road 'scarier' than the road between Bato and Urique - much more of a sense of being on the edge of the abyss. Also more of a chance of a run in with a car coming the other way around blind turns. No where near as challenging as the Bato-Urique road - well maintained (mostly) graded dirt road.

    To anyone thinking of doing it on a big bike, just be sure you bring PLETNTY of water, are able to pick up your loaded bike alone multiple times even when exhausted, have good knobbies, and have solid experience riding steep rocky up hills and downhills with extremely tight switch backs. Then again - some dude on a Versys with road tires did it I think - though he spent an unintended night on the trail and pretty much destroyed his bike.
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