Road or dirt riding with a group, whats the limit for you?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by feldjäger, Dec 24, 2012.

  1. feldjäger

    feldjäger Been here awhile

    Jun 11, 2012
    Las Vegas, NV
    So I have done a few rides recently with groups of 8-14 bikes, and have had mixed feelings about the experience. I guess the big thing is the groups I have rode with consisted of only a rider or two I have been on a ride with before, and figuring out other people's skills in a group can be interesting. I find its either, too slow, more stops than needed, loud bikes, riders who don't know how to ride in groups, i.e., spacing, and formations, ect...

    Curious to what others think, and what are your limits, and experiences.
  2. Andy Mc

    Andy Mc Adventurer

    Jul 13, 2012
    Middle Tennessee
    I prefer riding in pairs, no more than 4 to 6; somebody is always waiting on somebody, usually me!
  3. Angry Wookie

    Angry Wookie Running On Fumes

    Aug 5, 2007
    The most wretched hive of scum and villainy aka DC
    If I ride in a group I like to ride with two or three friends that I know well. Every now and then a group of five of us gets together to ride. We all know each other and our riding styles and abilities so it works well. I've learned not to ride in any larger groups or with more than one or two other people I wasn't used to riding with.

    When I have ridden in larger groups (anywhere from 10-20 riders) after an hour or two I got so frustrated with the slow pace/dangerous riding/constant stopping, I told the ride leader it wasn't working for me, have a nice day I'll be taking off on my own.
  4. Truckin_Thumper

    Truckin_Thumper low profile

    Jun 28, 2007
    I have a hard time with large rides. Not in a bad way, so to speak.
    One one hand you got to meet new people, most of them are great.
    You get to ride a road/trail/goatpath or more that you have never been on.
    Probably some little 6' square buildings that the most amazing food that you have never been to. You get to poke and prod bikes that you might like to own or are just curious about, all because they are there.

    So when you go on these types of rides, you have to adapt your attitude to that. No biggie.

    On the other hand......:lol3.....Just hope that there is not some hotrod bastard that wants to back it in. People have been kinda pissed about me roosting them :hide....Sometimes I just go stoopit :lol3

    I could tell you some funny as stories of me riding all over the US with the fucktards from this site. From "holy fuck that dude was scary" "Jeebus H. Christ that mofo OWNS that KTM" and everything inbetween.

    Either way, I have had some unreal fun rides, regusrdless of the number of riders.

    Then there is some of the local street only guys around here.
    Not even in the same ballpark, but same skill level. I dont mind pinning an FZ1, but I get really nervous about the LEO. On dirt, my biggest fear was knocking my dumbass out.....alone....again....:D

    Go with the just never know. :freaky
  5. catweasel67

    catweasel67 RD04

    Aug 18, 2009
    Vienna, Austria
    I don't really mind how big a group I ride with but there's a few things that I ensure happens when riding in groups of any size....

    that everyone knows from the get go that the larger the group, the slower the ride
    make sure everyone knows the basics of group riding, establish some basic ground rules
    safety first and don't be afraid to take steps if someone is being a dickhead

    etc etc

    I'd ridden solo, I've ridden in with a small group of mates, with strangers, with demo groups consisting of thousands. If I don't like the way things are going out, then I take action...that could be slowing down, stopping, having a chat, agreeing to meet at the rendezvous point and then making my own way...etc etc..

    But it's all riding :) just another way of experiencing it, a bit like track days vs off road vs touring
  6. Boondox

    Boondox Travels With Barley

    Aug 4, 2007
    Northern Vermont
    I've never ever had as much fun in a group ride as I do solo, so I simply avoid them.
  7. Unstable Rider

    Unstable Rider Farto Motografist

    Jul 23, 2010
    Twin Cities, Minnesota USA
    I am fine with a group ride or day-trip. I do like it best when the bikes are all about the same, in our case- slowish on the roadway single cylinders. Ride, eat, ride, eat, & repeat. Also done some 3-4 trips with several bikes, all good.

  8. SkiFastBadly

    SkiFastBadly A beer? Yes, please

    Mar 28, 2007
    Woodinville, WA
    As George Carlin asked, "Ever notice that the people who drive faster than you are maniacs, and the people who drive slower than you are morons?"

    I don't like riding with maniacs or morons. So I do 99% of my riding alone.
  9. nelliedawg82

    nelliedawg82 n00b

    Jan 6, 2010
    I do a lot of white water kayaking and snowboarding/skiing and have found in those sports when you get more than 4 things just get too, well crowded. Too much keeping track of each other.

    I do most of my riding solo, mostly cause I have a lot of weekdays off, but when I do ride with others the same thing seems to apply. I like small groups 3 ppl, 4 tops. I guess one of my favorite things about riding is you don't need anyone else to ride with, at least street riding. I figure trail riding is right back to "better to have someone with you, looking out for ya Just in case."
  10. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

    Mar 18, 2007
    Begin Op Zoom
    With good riders I am OK with a BUNCH.

    When there are new-ish/ inexperienced riders, No more than four.
  11. RRVT

    RRVT Wild and Crazy Guy

    Jun 6, 2009
    Burlington, VT
    For day rides I am OK either way. For touring my preference is to go alone, I really loved the solitude on my last two long trips. I like the idea of having breakfast together, riding on your own during the day and meet at a specified destination for socializing in the evening and maybe sharing the cost of the room. But it's hard to find trip partners willing to ride like that.
  12. Daddyo

    Daddyo Been here awhile

    Dec 17, 2010
    I've met people who only will ride with their "buddies", that's one take. For them it's a social event.
    If you ride alone you can go when you want, stop when you want, wherever you want and for how long you want. You can speed up, slow down, turn down any road you encounter. You can sing really loud and off key without bothering anybody. Zig zag, wheelie, whatever turns your crank.
    It's all personal preference.

  13. Bucho

    Bucho DAMNrider

    Dec 10, 2006
    Im a little more ok riding with larger 5+ rider while offroad. At least then its no big deal to pull over and stop and you dont worry about other traffic splitting you up.
    On road I prefer small groups. Ive also done a lot of great solo riding.
  14. feldjäger

    feldjäger Been here awhile

    Jun 11, 2012
    Las Vegas, NV
    I guess my biggest thing is everyone in a group of more than 6 riders should know the basics to formation riding, hand and arm signals, when to pass, when not to, basic stuff.

    all in all I enjoy any ride I'm on where its on the road or dirt, and if its dirt I hope I'm one of the riders in the front, don't like eating your dust :D
  15. Wraith Rider

    Wraith Rider Banned

    Feb 11, 2012
    Riding in groups is allways too slow or too many stops or bad safety distance habbits or stupid "I'm faster than you" claims etc.
    Touring with one or two guys I know and like very well is ok and I can oversee the above mentioned things, but since most strangers are idiots when you get to know them longer than 5 minutes...

    Best for me would be one wingman with the same habbits and interests. Still searching...
  16. Barry

    Barry Just Beastly

    Oct 4, 2002
    Fredericksburg, Va.
    Dirt - size of the group doesn't matter to me a bit. Dirt is a party!

    Road - couple guys, no more than 3-5 and I need to know them all or have each of them vouched for by someone I know.

  17. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

    Oct 25, 2004
    India Wharf summers - Boulders winters
    2-3 bikes tops. I like large gatherings, but not large rides.
  18. anotherguy

    anotherguy unsympathetic

    Jun 18, 2009
    the hills
    Pavement-depends on who. I have a few friends that I've raced with and they're always a gas to ride with. We do terrible things like turn off the kill switch on the way by and bump. With those guys the more the merrier.

    Normal people no more than 4 or 5.

    Off road? Same thing. Not everyone can appreciate being pushed out of the way in a corner and many get quite irate about it.

    So in the end I ride alone a lot.
  19. B.Curvin

    B.Curvin Feral Chia Tamer

    Feb 15, 2004
    Left of the dial. Canton, NC
    3 or 4 is perfect for a group ride as far as I'm concerned, street or dirt, If I already know them. Other than leading rides at ADV or KLRWorld events I only ride with people I know and am comfortable with. I would never (again) go riding with a large group of people I don't know. Too great a risk of dumb ass riders, LEO involvement or the worst possible outcome, boredom. The last two times I tried to ride with a large group of people I didn't know I cut out part way in. Once, I was bored to death, the other time I was scared someone would get hurt.

    Myself and a friend started the infamous "WNC Epic Supermoto rides". Up to 5 or 6 people it was fine. Once folks started coming from all over and there were 12 plus riders I quit going. The pace and actions of the riders just got stupid.
  20. WRW9751

    WRW9751 7th Day Adventurist

    Jun 6, 2011
    Ankeny Iowa
    I am not a pack animal, never have been! I have several friends that are of the same skill set, that I would follow anywhere. I would prefer to cast out on my own.