Road Rally nOOb - Now with more rallies & daytrippin

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Day Trippin'' started by Boondoggle, Jul 31, 2015.

  1. lakota

    lakota Geeser

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    It was a fun rally
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  2. LudemJo

    LudemJo Iron Butt Dreamer

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    Great report Lance. I am in the process of writing up a report that I will send to Scott to post on the Void Rally results page. I hope to have it done this week. The most important lesson I learned from this experience is that it is not about just getting high point value bonuses, it is about points per mile (or point density as I call it). Most all of the 10-Hour riders traveled about 500 miles give or take 50. I had some big point value locations, but there were too many miles between them. I rode 497 miles and scored 432 points, which results in a points density of 0.87. The winning rider rode 42 more miles than I did but scored 252 points more, with a point density of 1.27 points per mile. I will employ this strategy next year and find a route that takes me to the high point solution, but I will capture as many as the small bonuses as possible on the way there and back. I rode my plan, and captured most of the bonuses I had planned, but my route just did not have enough points to justify the mileage I had to put in.

    Lesson learned. Can't wait until next year.

    John
  3. Boondoggle

    Boondoggle no good deed

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    I sent my this thread to the rallymasters after the first one. When Scott deems your work "too profane for publication" you know you're on to something.
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    BkerChuck Been here awhile

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    I hope to have my report posted later tonight. I've been working on it but still want to proofread one more time and I have to upload pictures yet. Like your version, very cool! I know I can't run with the big dogs so my whole goal is efficiency. If you look at the PA results you'll see Mona had the highest points per mile of our starters with our route. I lost 24 points with a start text goof up so she beat me there. Any objections to me linking my report here for folks that may be interested? Not sure of the protocols for that so figured I'd request your permission. Going to try a longer one next time?
  5. lakota

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    My two cents - the best rally results grow out of efficiency at bonus stops and gas stops. When they become second nature adding more stops and miles follows as a direct consequence.
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  6. Boondoggle

    Boondoggle no good deed

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    No objections here- please do. This is about rallys, not about me, all welcome.

    I'm signed up for the NIITWiT in late October, 36 hour start-anywhere ending in Shreveport. Had a work thing pop up last week that may keep me out of it, but as of now I'm a "go". There are still five spots open, facebook page is here: https://www.facebook.com/NIITWITRally/ :deal
  7. LadyDraco

    LadyDraco KillerSmileIHazIt !!

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    Them road rally's sure sound like a blast.. :ricky
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  8. Boondoggle

    Boondoggle no good deed

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    I really tried to focus on that this time, thus the whole "visualize the stop in advance" thing. Having everything organized is a big help too, though I could have been better- my top box looked like the laundry room floor by the time I got to the end. Apparently five pens is NOT enough to have clipped to the lid.

    Have always worked not to make mistakes too. I got lucky on the DECO bonus, I had a note to re-read it at the stop and didn't- I remembered to get all the signs but didn't pay attention to the gas pumps... just happened to have them both in the shot. Still, I managed to save myself the whole LINC combo by taking the time to make sure my flag showed up in the bicycle pic.

    It's like the old saying goes, slow is smooth and smooth is fast.

    The other thing I want to work on for the next one is seeing alternative bonuses and re-routing while I'm in mid-rally- that's something I haven't had time for in the shorter rallies and the one 32-hour I started I didn't finish. It was really enlightening listening to you and a couple others talking about alternatives- seemed like you had the whole list memorized while I only had the ones that were pretty close to my route filed away.

    Seems like it'll be a different game over a longer haul and being able to see the big picture and be more flexible will come at more of a premium. I'm still astounded at how you and the other IBR riders could put a route together so quickly and change it on the fly... bunch of animals, you are
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  9. Boondoggle

    Boondoggle no good deed

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    ahem, allow me: http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/rally-the-void-12-bigger-better-drier.1256842/#post-33250395

    It was a lot of fun hanging out with your Missus at dinner, she is a real hoot.
  10. BkerChuck

    BkerChuck Been here awhile

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    Thanks I'll tell her you said hi!
  11. lakota

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    Two things - in a 10 hour you don't have time to reroute on the fly. Just know where additional bonii might be along the route if time allows. Being competitive in a 10 hour means getting it right the fist time as there is no time to recover from mistakes.
    Second - you will find that you will plan better in the hotel than on the fly while riding. Have in mind what you want to do and consider the alternatives before the start. It will go better
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  12. lakota

    lakota Geeser

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    See you in Shreveport
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  13. Boondoggle

    Boondoggle no good deed

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    man, I hope so! One work hurdle to get over, but should have that cleared up by the end of this month one way or another. This weekend was my only rally this year and I have the bug real bad
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    Sorry to miss the NIIT ... just one too many to squeeze in this year. Good luck guys.
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  15. LudemJo

    LudemJo Iron Butt Dreamer

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    I have sent my rally report to Scott this afternoon (in two parts because it is so long). Keep your eyes peeled for a first-timer's perspective. I may also post it on another thread if I have the time to do so. Feedback is welcome.

    John
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  16. LudemJo

    LudemJo Iron Butt Dreamer

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    My rally report is posted on The Void archive page. Warning, some may think TLDR.

    John
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  17. fuzzygalore

    fuzzygalore Wonder Woman

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    Great job! Glad you had a good ride this time around :-)
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    Boondoggle no good deed

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    Thanks, and thanks for coming down and scoring- that's really cool how many people do that
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    Boondoggle no good deed

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    Got my flag for the NIITWit yesterday, w00t!
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  20. Boondoggle

    Boondoggle no good deed

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    And rally books/waypoints are here, this is gonna be great!
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