Road salt and sand after east coast winter weather question

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by longslowdistance, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. longslowdistance

    longslowdistance Long timer

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    It's snowing now, will stop tonight and the snow will be gone by later tomorrow (Tues).
    New moto, break in service scheduled for the following day Wed am. Not in a hurry.

    Assuming the roads are dry but still salted and sandy on Wed, What would you do?

    A. Postpone until some spring rains clear the salt off the roads. No hurry.

    B. A little salt is not an issue. Just don't slip on the sand.
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  2. cmfireman

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    B, but be sure and rinse off your bike well after riding. I made the mistake of riding salted roads on my last ride of the year, and I came back and parked my Vstrom on the center stand in the garage. We usually get some fair weather days here in NC to get out and ride in the winter, but this year has been an exception. When I finally decided it was a nice day to ride and started checking air pressures, oil etc.. I noticed the rust on my header pipe and center stand. :(
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  3. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b

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    I have motorcycles that I'll ride before a good rain rinse. I have others that I don't use until there's been a really good rinse.

    For a new motorcycle, I'd probably wait for a really good rinse. You mentioned "Not in a hurry".

    Salt can get everywhere. Even dried salt can dust the lower parts pretty well.
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  4. Paebr332

    Paebr332 Good news everyone!

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    New bike, wait for rain to wash the salt away.
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  5. vasuvius

    vasuvius wannabe something ... don't know what

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    Wait for more than one good rain. Under bridges and overpasses, the salt does not get washed off the roads that quickly.
    Washing salt off the bike is not that easy unless you do it immediately. Even then, it gets into little nooks and joints on the bike and stays there.
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  6. Schmokel

    Schmokel I got peed on today.

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    Living up here its inevitable to get salt on the bike. Few water crossings later, and you're good!
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  7. Tarmac Kid

    Tarmac Kid Doesn't Like Stuff

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    I loathe salt and sand more than anything in this world. I'd wait. We aren't pros, we aren't making a living riding motos and the risk is quite high with the salt and sand. To me the salt and sand reduce the fun and pace in the twisties while dramatically increasing the risk. Leads to a pretty bad risk/reward setup.

    That's how I like to look at my motorcycle rides. What is the risk? What is the reward? The risk, at best a rusty bike, at worst a low traction coefficient induced crash. What is the reward? A slow cold ride. No thanks, I'll wait.
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  8. SoCalCub

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    The menace is the pea gravel some places add to the salt.
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  9. BetterLateThanNever

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    This is exactly how I feel. Maybe I have an overactive imagination, but the only thing that I'd dread more than a sand-induced low side is the high side that might result from hitting some sand and then hooking back up with clean pavement. All due respect to people who ride anyway, but it ain't me.
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  10. kneeslider

    kneeslider Insufficient privileges!

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    in Finland they use ground granite & it can be an "education" cornering before the sweep it all up & clean it for the next winter season. Oh the tram tracks in the wet are fun too!
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  11. st3ryder

    st3ryder Been here awhile

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    Question:

    do I take a greater risk for injury and damage for a few miles of lower quality riding, or take a lower risk for injury and damage for many miles of higher quality riding?

    Wait till May or for several really good showers to clean the roads up a bit and you won't regret it.
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  12. 1greenmachine

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    This.

    Mines 10 years old and still stays put until a good rain storm, all the sand and crap on the road it's not worth it to me.
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  13. LudemJo

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    I ride. It is a motorcycle, not a museum piece. The joy I get from riding, and the skills I hone by riding in less than ideal conditions, are priceless.

    Just my take. Everyone needs to make their own decision. I ride year-round because I love riding. I take good care of my bikes, but they both get used to the fullest and are not necessarily washed and waxed as often as they should.
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  14. randyo

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    the little bit the average rider encounters is not a big deal

    that said, I've been bit by salt, but I actually ride in this shit, while it's still coming down 6"/hr, it took nearly 4 full winter seasons without washing (20,000 miles, I ride on average 5000miles /season while I have my winter setup, front studded knobby & darkside car winter in back) before I got cancer of the wire harness
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  15. longslowdistance

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    Thanks.
    The winner is: Move to Southern California
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    If you don't want road conditions to dictate when you ride and you want the bike to look good as long as possible and delay having to chase electrical problems then spend some time prepping the bike for those conditions. Dielectric greese and ACF-50 or Corrosion-X are your friends much more than wax and detailer sprays.
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  17. randyo

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    thanks, I'll deal with the salt to keep my gun collection, there is nothing "winning" about California
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  18. Schmokel

    Schmokel I got peed on today.

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    so cal sucks!
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  20. Kevm

    Kevm Eternal Optimist

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    So, there was a time I rode my one and only bike all year, salt or snow or ice be damned as long as I could make it.

    In the time since things have changed.

    1. I'm lucky enough that I have a number of bikes I can choose to leave parked all winter and one sacrificial lamb.

    2. What they put on the roads has gotten 10x worse.

    With regards to #2. I had a Subaru that looked like new under the hood after a decade. Then they started using brine solutions on the roads in Eastern PA. It looked like crap in 1-2 years. I bought a new one, it looked like crap under the hood (corrosion) in 1-2 years.

    Around that time I had a Moto Guzzi Jackal which was my primary ride AND my winter ride. After 2-3 winters I was seeing a ridiculous amount of corrosion. I knelt one day to check the rear tire and noticed some bubbling on the rear fender below the tail light... And put my finger right through the fender.

    So today, see #1. My Sporty is the oldest bike in the fleet, and largely setup well for winter riding (electric hookup, large windshield, and hand deflectors). But I can see the toll it's slowly taking.

    I clean it, I hit parts of it with oils/rust neutralizers, etc. But it's just a matter of time.

    Truthfully I should buy a specific winter bike that has lots of plastic and painted engine cases or lots of body panels that hide it.

    The rest of the fleet doesn't see the pavement from first snow/salt until multiple heavy rains.

    The Guzzi has been on the lift all winter. The Duc and RK sitting side-by-side.
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