Robby Gordon 2013

Discussion in 'Racing' started by larryboy, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad n00balicious

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    The general public knows little of what really went down with Robby & the ASO or the FIA on his getting DQed. I do know that it was general knowledge in the bivouac that the other teams knew about "systems" down stream of the restrictor on his car, did the ASO overlook it and then the FIA stepped in when BMW blew the whistle? Water under the bridge. There is no ASO vs. American thing happening no matter what the fanatics blather about.

    There was a Dakar race before Robby and there will be a Dakar race next year when he stays home to run his SST business. Excitable kids at a skate park is kewl, but do you really think it brings the ASO a measurable increase in revenue? Just like what we see in Baja when he shows up to race, lots of crowd excitement as he goes through contingency and everyone yells and yea hoos when he races by, but those people are there even when he's not racing. Ever see the turn out for WRC in Argentina?? They have to cancel special stages because the crowds are too large.
  2. Southest US Thumper

    Southest US Thumper Extreme n00b

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    Can't say I have, only in Europe.

    I guess I get caught up in the Thrilla in Manila type hype he brings... Pulls me in every time...

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    That's not to say he's not a Top Drawer Performance, upper stuff is covered with Riff Raff, Neduro, and various parts, jet kit, steering damper, suspension stickers....
  3. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad n00balicious

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    The fact is that RG has lost time to the leaders on every stage. deVillers had passed RG yesterday and got screwed because of the cancellation of the stage. SPH has almost an hour lead and there is no reason from him to take chances and throw the race away. Even if he had a problem. he still has "water carriers" on the mini team that would pretty much prevent losing enough time for RG to get ahead. You don't win The Dakar waiting for your competition to DNF.

    "I would be leading if I could get my 5 hours back"
    "I could win if those 18 cars ahead of me broke"

    Really???? WTF????
  4. Shawnee Bill

    Shawnee Bill Long timer

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    Really, yes really.
    I'm pretty sure there hasn't been 18 cars drop out at this point, and sure that more won't drop out before it's over. And maybe some of them have even lost over 3 hours in a stage :lol3
    REALLY????

    It's a RACE, and if I remember right ( that's subject to error for sure) Robbie drove right around deVillers yesterday, then the favor was repaid, that happens in a LOT of races. Problem is the race was "neutered" before that happened. :wink:

    SPH is ahead and breathing easier now because Nasser dropped out. Really????



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  5. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    The other night while watching the NBC report 33 vehicles went out in one day. This late in the race I think attrition certainly still is an issue.
    As much as I'd love to see it I wouldn't be betting on Robby for the win.
  6. Tork

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    7 Seconds , hope it holds .
  7. Strong Bad

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    You actually think all of the top Minis will all DNF in 2 days as well as the de Villers' Yota and the rest of the 13 cars in front??? Really???

    Nasser making it as far as he did was a total fluke, he and Carlos both amazed everyone in the off-road industry that they got as far as they did. Most of the money was on them being gone by day 3.
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    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    Not saying you are wrong, but where are you getting this info?
  9. davesupreme

    davesupreme grand poobah

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    they never really did say what killed Nassar's buggy. water pump?.... water pumps on chevys ain't exactly rocket science.... you could probably change one on that car in minutes....
  10. Shawnee Bill

    Shawnee Bill Long timer

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    The likelihood of more than just a few of the top 20 that have made it this far dropping out or loosing many hours is very slim. We all understand that. Robbie understands that better than we do, with that in mind replay his comments about those ahead of him having problems. He said when he flipped over his chances of placing high were gone. Everybody understands that. So does he roll over and play dead or keep charging? You think he should hang his head in shame and wave everyone by that is higher than him in the overall? That ain't happening. :lol3

    Nasser making it as far as he did was not a fluke, like him or not, the guys good, he built (had built) a good buggy.



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  11. bajaboundmoto

    bajaboundmoto Been here awhile

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    TOTALLY!
    So why is it "Demon" can't put something together for races up this way that works so well and hold up? I haven't been looking at RDC but I can imagine there's similar sentiment there.
    Include me in the "amazed" group.
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    The one constant of the ASO (Dakar Rally Organizers) is they make each race tougher then the last. This race will go down as the most challenging in logistics. And for that reason... and as I've said before... anything will happen. Robbie knows if he continues to increase the pace, he can attempt to expose other drivers weaknesses. This was evident with the lack of pit crew for the Qatar team. One bad roll over or bad transmission could strand a top driver and neutralize them, including - Peterhansel.
  13. Strong Bad

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    I never said he should hang his head in shame or wave anyone by. I've simply pointed out what seems to escape many of his fanatic followers.

    Nasser getting as far as he did was a total Fluke. Damon Jefferies building those cars at the last second with zero testing and development time and expecting them to perform was a joke. Jefferies had never built a car for the Dakar before, 90% of what they build are toys for playing in the dunes. The engine builder Jefferies used is a shop that specializes in dyno tuning and all of their true builds have a history of being unreliable, not endurance motors. The last 3 race cars Jefferies built caught fire and burnt to the ground.
  14. wayne_l

    wayne_l Been here awhile

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    what happened in the final WP today for robby ? last i checked he was 4 min ahead then he losses 4 minutes to the minis in the end ? i smell a rat !
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    The last two Dakar buggies Jefferies built did pretty good, one made several days (don't remember exactly), the other made it 11 (?) days running near the front.

    I'm a casual observer of Dakar, the name Jefferies means nothing to me. But I have been following motorsports for many years and what I've noticed is that serious enthusiasts are often surprised at how well some do that don't show up with what is considered proper equipment.

    So don't take me or Robbie too seriously, we're just having fun at the moment and next week will be off to something else. Me more so than Robbie.


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    Robbie Jajajajajajajaja!:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
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    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    If I didn't know better, I'd think you were at the interview StrongBad... :wink:
  18. Strong Bad

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    Yeah, too many years on Mark's team I suppose:wink:. I know that Dirk & Mark have been tight they both raced the Atlas Rally together on team KTM, but I thought he was a bit harsh on Ralph.

    Just a heads up for the leg humppers; Rubby Gordon HATES it when people spell it Robbie. If you had been listening you would have heard Mark praise a large number of Dakar winners. I doubt your hero would ever say anything like that. As Kellon said in his interview; "Nobody loves Robby more than Robby.....":lol3:lol3:lol3
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    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    Possibly...? I'm not sure... at a quick guesstimate I would think that Mark has more top 5 stage placings than Robby... the stats will show what approach gives the best results/podiums of the two...?


    So to round off/bow out, maybe I will just put up the notion that there are two schools of thought or approaches in the (global) world of offroad racing... the traditional euro "Dakar" cross country rally school of thought... and the old school USofA "SCORE/Baja" offroad racing school of thought...

    The former is full of politics, tactics, semantics intrigue and carefully laid strategies... the latter is full of high tech "go hard or go home" foot to the firewall racing (which I love as well... don't get me wrong). Both have pro's both have con's, both have their place in the world.

    Miller seems to have understood an embraced the "euro" train of thought and meets them at their own game... Robby seems hell bent on taking the US approach and meeting them head on with it.

    How successful each has been with their respective Dakar careers is for them (and perhaps their respective fans) to decide for themselves...

    I'll just leave you with this... there is more than one way to skin a cat.
  20. Strong Bad

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    I have to admit I totally lean towards the traditional as I started trying to follow back when Danny LaPorte was racing it. I say trying to follow as it was pretty much reading what happened several days after the fact.

    In another couple of days it looks like we will be able to say: Robby Gordon tried for years to win the Dakar and was never able to do it.