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Discussion in 'Racing' started by larryboy, Dec 9, 2012.
What American car driver has the most stage wins ?
I think there is another interesting element involved in the mix. The car is reliable and Robby demonstrates he has the driving skills. Robby and Nassar both knew ahead of time that they would need to drive very, very, fast to beat Peterhansel. Robby said as much in interviews. Robby and Nassar have also demonstrated the result of balls out driving in a 14 day race. Nobody can race at the bloody edge for 40 hours over 14 days without making a critical mistake along the way.
Robby made a comment towards the end of the rally that put some light on the other element. That is the superior speed the 4X, short-travel suspended Minis have in the twisty dirt road sections that make up so much of the course. If you watch Robby push the Hummer through those sections it looks slow and inefficient. That big travel suspension is bouncing, bobbing, and leaning like a low rider with a short in the control panel.
That means he has to compensate by pushing it and take more chances in the dunes where the Hummer excels.
(edit, video added) Not the best videography but latter part of this clip demonstrates what I'm talking about.
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Now if there was a way to incorporate some kind of Skyhook-like active suspension into a buggy concept, that might tip the scales. A suspension that is firm on the roads but soft and long travel in the dunes and able to absorb big hits would allow it to adapt to the wide range of conditions during the race. I don't know if the technology is there yet, or even the rules allow it, but it would even things up some between the two types of cars.
It is his weapon of choice. Robbie designed and built this car as a Class 1 buggy, sold it to Cameron Theriot who raced it for about a year, and then Robbie bought it back and started multiple re-configurations as the Hummmmmmmbuggy. Long travel suspension and cornering just don't mix and its more than just body roll, center of gravity is also much higher with long travel.
First off let me say thanks to all who give of their time to post here good bad or whatever. I agree with Sparrowhawk. From an engineering stand point the car while good at certain task is not a good fit as an all around machine. Now given a 10 mile whoop section, those cars even the euro buggys would get seriously spanked. I'm not sure if active suspension is legal and have no knowledge of the rule book. In fairness to RG I beleive his decision to race was last minute and further I also recall him saying last year he would be back with a new car. I,m glad he was back but he should have saved the smack talking till he won. His prerace antics reminded me of Taladega Nights. The red neck super charging last year was classic though. Thats really cool and reminiscent of Ferarri F1 team antics.
KOH 2012 Pre run
Remote actuation of heavy duty swaybar & disconects could help in this with swaybar designed in a way that limits total suspension travel when engaged for the tighter WRC style portions of the Dakar?
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Dammit, now I want to spend $270 on a 2wd Traxxas Slash RC car
Met the Adventura 4x4 guys at the stage in Copiapo, they were salivating over our friends '12 Jeep 4 door wrangler with all the catalog goodies you could bolt to it along with over head tent, interviewed him for a good 10-15min
Any pics of the jeep?
You can get one with the Humbuggy body too.
Tip: the Slash is good for screwing around. Requires lotsa of mods to make it a reliable racer though.
Sucks the real one doesn't flip back over that easy..lol
Got a 15 min hit for illegal air support. Bazinga!!!!! 2nd place behind Voss.
Illegal air support?
Race car can't talk to helicopter during the race for support/advice/help of any kind. RG was warned several times last year. Casey being hard nosed this year, he gave a team an hour ding for not having anyone at the driver's meeting. As Casey says: "Boo--yeah!"
he is always pushing the rules... always
It gets better. Apparently it was due to communication between pit & chopper, NOT direct chopper to race car!
I hope he makes it farther this year at KOH. I took these from qualifying last year
what was the deal at parker between robby and pistol?
Pistol Pete wrote Fuck-u and then signed underneath on the side of Rubbie's car. Rubbie got his panites in a bunch and attacked Pistol. 'bout time some one decked Pistol. Pistol is just about as litigious as Rubbie, fully expect legal action for the assult.