Rocket 3 Roadster - Harley Thoughts

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Harleytoo, Nov 3, 2012.

  1. Harleytoo

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  2. Dave in Wi

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    I haven't owned either one but I've ridden Road Kings and the Triumph Rocket III roadster. Frankly I think they are both very fun to ride bikes but in different ways.

    The pluses of the Triumph are of course the incredible motor and power. And it handles much better than you'd expect. It is one of those bikes that just feels great going down the road. Again, the power is intoxicating and really needs to be experienced. And it's a little unusual which can be good or bad depending on how you look at it. The minuses- thin dealer network, although if you don't go too far from home that may not be a big deal. Not many of these sold so not a lot of aftermarket stuff available. Maintenance will be more than a Harley as it has liquid cooling and you will need to adjust the valves. And the looks, it's just not in the same league as the Road King.

    The Road King also feels great going down the road, but you'll be going at a slower pace generally. I think it's looks are head and shoulders above the Rocket III. Very well finished. Also the integrated luggage is a big plus iny mind. There are dealers everywhere, and pretty much anything you can imagine is available in the aftermarket. You can't get a much more maintenance free bike than a modern Harley, no coolant to change and the valves adjust themselves. The minuses- not many in my mind. Everyone has one, if that matters at all. Not that powerful.

    In my mind, it's a draw. Both pretty darn nice bikes.
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  3. merc16

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  5. vicster

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    My experience too. Er, not with your wife, mind you. Women in general. I've owned everything from BMWs to Harleys to custom cafes to full out custom choppers. For whatever reason my matt black Roadster is the first to consistently get any attention from the ladies. And at a not exactly attractive 61 years of age, I'll take any "hook" I can get.
    Not that this would matter to a Chaplain.:D
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  6. scapegoat

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    If thats the latest Rocket me thinks its pretty cool lookin. I always wanted a Guzzi Griso for the rawness of its look but after seeing the Rocket Id go Triumph all the way,specially based off the 2 Tigers Ive had. That being said the all have their expenses to deal with. If your decision to change is based on your bikes vibes and unreliability Id find another mechanic. All of the HD's Ive had are the least buzzy of all the 30+ bikes Ive owned. The fuel smell can be tracked down, perhaps a bad charcoal can or something simple. Oiling problem on a stock 88 top end? never heard that one myself. Was it a overly rich mix washing down the cylinders of oil causing rings to go south thus the oiling problem? Cam bearings and cam chest issues, sure. I look at it like this if your not doin the wrenchin. $650 to replace the twin cam tensioners or $650 for a service on a Triumphs valves,FI sync, etc,etc. The HD once every 40K the Tri every 12K.
    As far as what other think about what you ride or stereo typing you,just remember you can never make everyone happy and besides who cares what others think.
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  7. YOUNZ

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    If back tire mileage is an issue, why not go to the Dark Side. Many do. no problem, it is said.
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  8. Harleytoo

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    LOL, no, I have caught my limit as it were.

    The ministry elements aside;

    Really, after having owned the RK for 7 years and having been around both Harley and Triumph in that time - I have to put my bid in on the Triumphs being more mainteance free. Anything mechanical requires some maintenance. However, having searched the internet for issues I am finding few solid results aside from some of the early Rocket 3 bugs that had to be worked out. I wish my experience with the HD had been the same. Having to have the top in rebuilt at 30k was a bit concerning.

    I am not going to dog HD for this, as things happen. However, and maybe its a volume issue, but most of the guys I ride with have had multiple HD's in the period I have had mine. From early '07 through '09 things were just not good. The new design seems better, but is not without its issues - if you happen to be in the top 10% of HD riders (by mileage - which many of the guys I ride with are). While you can put big miles on a HD, it will typically not be without some level of mechanical management (read, time in the shop).

    I have seen the insides of a V-twin and a R3 engine. Vast differences, not just in design, but in the heaviness of the componentry. The R3's guts are quite heavily made. Yea, it makes for a heavy bike, but it also speaks to its potentail for durability (in my mind).

    In then end (and I do do a lot of the maintenance myself), I see taking the R3 in maybe every other year for a 20k checkup/service over 1-2 trips per year on the HD. I currently only get 6-8k out of a back tire on my HD (due to it being the older design and me running custom wheels front and back). So aside from the increased cost (maybe $100 more) for a rear tire on the R3, I see the mainteance cost swing going to the R3.

    To get the same lift in performance (103 V-twin) and brakes (ABS), I am looking at, quite seriously a 10K difference (if I stayed with a bagger - 4-5K if I dropped to a Fat Boy). That is a pretty good jump and the one other element that we tell anyone who ask us about HD ownership that we tell them hands down - "do not let your warranty run out!"
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  9. DAKEZ

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    Key words: "it is said" No dumbsiders will admit to their folly. :deal
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  10. Quedok

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    I just picked up my New Rocket Roadster this morning. The torque is very useful especially when changing lanes to pass. No downshifting at all, just a slight twist of the wrist and it's a done deal. I have already gotten lots of looks and stares. I promise you one thing, you will probably not run across another one during an average ride. These bike are so rare on the road.
    Anyway, got to go. It's sunny outside and my new bike is calling me.:wings
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  11. speednut

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    I wonderabout insurance costs?
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  12. Harleytoo

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    Should be about the same. Both are cruisers and the offset in an increase in insurance for the larger engine is probably off-set by the lower cost of the bike.
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  13. ferrix

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    I'm surprised nobody so far mentioned Rocket Touring version - do you guys not get that model on your side of the pond? That would really surprise me, I would have thought it was made especially with the American market in mind...

    I thought of it straight away as it comes already equipped with hard bags and touring screen and with its single headlight it might be visually more appealing for some tastes. It might be also more acceptable to the HD rider community?

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    Great, so then be there with those who are willing to be there with you on the replacement bike of your choice. Those who would so harshly judge you based on bike brand probably aren't all that receptive to your mission or message anyway.
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  15. Dave in Wi

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    It's tuned for 40 fewer horses and 13 less ft/lb of torque. I'd rather fit an aftermarket windscreen and bags to the Roadster personally.
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  16. Harleytoo

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    Actually the one time I rode a touring model it fit me poorly
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    R3T is tuned for Euro 3 specs. A set of Triumph performance pipes (TOR) and the tune that goes with it-instant 17-20 hp.
    The R3T handles way better than it looks-it's quite nimble.
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    http://carpenterracing.com/RIII_SB_899.htm

    Triumph Rocket III Breaks the Eight-Second Barrier

    The Carpenter Racing Triumph Rocket III “Silverback” has lived up to its billing, breaking the eight-second barrier in the quarter mile – the first ever for a normally-aspirated street cruiser. Rider Marcelo "Alex" Galligani rode the bike to an 8.993 second elapsed time Atco Raceway in New Jersey.
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  19. mrbreeze

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    that's kind of like saying it's Mike Tyson with a bit of a runny nose. He still wont have any problem kicking your a$$. :lol3

    I don't know why the R3T doesn't sell better here. It looks like Triumph has dropped it for 2013. Maybe it's a victim of the weak economy.
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  20. KingOfFleece

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    The number one thing we heard at the dealership, over and over, where is the music and cruise control?
    That's the FIRST thing every Victory browser looks for and asks about and is one of the main reasons people buy that bike. I've plenty of miles on both and in the motor dept. the Triumph has a much bigger presence.

    There are always other factors involved but the air-cooled V-twins are no match.

    We have Victory and Triumph.
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