Rockies regional randomness

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by Geek, Sep 30, 2009.

  1. goodburbon

    goodburbon Been here awhile

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    I'm on my 4th set of rear tires this year, will need my 5th by the end of the week and typically put as many street miles as dirt miles but need maximum traction as I'm riding difficult terrain and single track.




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  2. c.vestal

    c.vestal Rally On

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    Right, spend the time in the garage, in controlled conditions. We all work hard to be able to make time to ride, who wants to chance a trailside tube / tire change wasting valuable time on the trail.

    *spend the time to research the proper tire/bib combination and you can get 2+ tires per mousse.
    ** gut an old tube, wrap it around your older mousse and give it another tire life.


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  3. Proveick

    Proveick Long timer

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  4. nwcolorider

    nwcolorider NWCOLO

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    first ticket I ever got was from an eye in the sky out side of Parachute on the newly opened I 70. I opened the ol Mustang up and came over the hill and ouch!
  5. Assfault

    Assfault Exposed Member

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    The officer who witnesses the offence is required to write the ticket.
    Otherwise it is hearsay, and should not stand up in court.
    If you get pulled over for a speeding ticket from an airplane, ask the officer if he witnessed you speeding,
    and if not, ask for the officer who did to come write the ticket. they can't detain you for the time it would take for that to happen.
    Know your rights, know the law, fight every ticket. They expect you to fold, and mail in the ticket for reduced points.
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  6. TooFast

    TooFast Long timer

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    Thanks for sharing this.

    I've always wondered about the accuracy of a human starting and stopping a stopwatch manually like the pilots are doing and computing the vehicle speed accurately.

    My suspicion is that if 3 people all tried to time the same speeding vehicle, all 3 stop watches would read different....human reaction time varies greatly IMO.

    Same idea was true back in the days when LEOs would park on an overpass and time us manually with VASCAR (IIRC)
  7. Geek

    Geek oot & aboot

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    I agree - you should know your rights.

    The officer can write you a misdemeanor citation without witnessing through hearsay as long as he has sufficient reason to believe the misdemeanor occurred.

    An officer in an airplane telling him so over a radio is more than sufficient.

    You do not have the right to demand to face your accuser at that time of the stop, but you do in court.

    As long as that officer and the witnessing officer show up in court it will stand up but you can try and fight it based on inaccuracy or whatnot.

    In Golden lately a cop has been standing on foot with a laser gun on the pedestrian overpass on 93 with a bunch of cops hiding around the next bend.
    Same difference.
  8. TooFast

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    Radar and Laser are one thing, but a LEO in a moving aircraft watching the vehicle in question, subject to parallax errors, manually starting and stopping a stopwatch is whole different can of worms.

    Seems to me, the potential for error is much, much higher.
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  9. Geek

    Geek oot & aboot

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    I agree completely.

    My "same difference" statement is in regards to getting a ticket due to hearsay - be it laser or airplane.

    It was proposed in Assfault's post that you could fight the ticket by demanding on the spot to face your accuser and NOT get a ticket due to hearsay and the flying officer being unable to respond. My point was that that is incorrect.

    I wasn't addressing your post. :freaky
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  10. bmon

    bmon Go Thattaway

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    Note to self - avoid engineer -> ouray route in future unless/until I snag a dirt bike.
    -Aching rider in Norwood.
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  11. James Adams

    James Adams Long timer

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    I did that on a Stelvio. It was the first time I had a big adventure bike on anything worse than a graded dirt road. It didn't end well. :rofl

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    That said, some ATVers stopped, winched the bike up for me.

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    Once we got it upright, we gave it a few minutes for the oil to settle back to the bottom of the crankcase, topped off the oil, and it fired right up. Aside from a busted mirror and some scratched plastic, the bike was largely unscathed. If you're going to be dumb, you have to be tough.

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    One of the bystanders--who happened to be an experienced GS rider--rode it the rest of the way down to Ouray for me (without incident). I rode on the back of an ATV. :shog

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    Then I rode it the rest of the way back to Colorado Springs. It was a long day...
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  12. 350Rizzer

    350Rizzer Adventurer

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    Man that's one strong windscreen!
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  13. Assfault

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    My guess not this next weekend but in 2 weekends the aspens will be turned.
    Early by a week IMO.


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  14. Podzo's PD

    Podzo's PD Been here awhile

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    Great colors I am off to Sipapu for the Bavarian Mtn. Weekend Rally next weekend should see some good colors.
  15. TooFast

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    We were on the same page the whole time and think alike , you posted very significant deeper information, perhaps I could have clearer on my human error factor vs legal rights fighting the grey area ticket.

    I thank both you and Assfault for bringing up info on the subject for further discussion, I for one am interested in the human error factor of clicking a stop watch.

    Those days are not over despite electronics.

    So, I was asking , if 3 human LEOs in a moving plane click stopwatches and compute your vehicle speed would any of the 3 be correct or even match? Tough question I know, but you can be guilty of false calculations.....I was once issued a speeding ticket while coasting down from the Eisenhower Tunnel by an airplane, LEO parked waiting down in Georgetown by the lake and issued me a speeding ticket by airplane is my interest, but yes I was guilty although saw him and putted by, but lacked how to fight it in court. Between the drunks and phone users while driving seems logically to be an area to concentrate safety on vs revenue despite a little speeding which perhaps cops do them selves. Show me a cop who has never speeded himself :y0!
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  16. Merfman

    Merfman Trustin' my cape...

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    Ruh roh? You/bike OK? I've ridden that route multiple times on a dirt bike and it's not exactly easy...
  17. Blakebird

    Blakebird had to get a bike, had to paint it red

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    I like riding up out of Ouray doing that section of Engineer climbing up off 550....but on a dirt bike :D
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  18. Merfman

    Merfman Trustin' my cape...

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    Last time I was down there the rock garden at the bottom was gone. They'd done lots of dozer work. And yes, only on a dirt bike, no way would I take a BADS up that.. I would be at a talent deficit about 4.3'
    east of 550...
  19. minerbill

    minerbill Emits Methane

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    Been up and down the Mineral Creek section and Engineer pass on the 990 recently. Seems like it's getting more tore-up or dug out. Ran a stock Cherokee down it years ago, don't think I would try it now.
  20. bmon

    bmon Go Thattaway

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    Yeah, bruised hand, & I ran out of steam, couldn't make it to Merf's magic camp site near Naturita, opted for a room / hot shower in Norwood. Things were made more difficult when I had to ride from the top of Engineer to Ouray w/o a functional side stand, made dump recovery a b*tch which I did twice from the base of Engineer to Ouray.

    Side stand bent to the point where it was non functional, Jeff @ Colorado West 4x4 rental shop in Ouray pulled the side stand, vice and a ~8foot leverage bar straightened the stand right up. :thumbup Didnt have cash on me, wouldnt take a card payment so a case of beer is being purchased for him tomorrow. Crash guards did their thing protecting the innards, didn't maintain their shape but can be tweaked back over the winter.

    So yeah, the stuff that pushes the limits I guess makes the most memorable -- once was enough. :D

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    P.S. Every Jeep driver I encountered was cool beyond measure. The Razors -- not so much.
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