Rookie wanna-be weldor starting to make some cool things!

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by kirkster70, Oct 3, 2010.

  1. kirkster70

    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    So you and Keith are BFFs now? :D He's a very smart guy!!!

    You may find it easier to mount your beam before mounting your wheels. I kept coming across that when researching mine.

    Looks like you're coming right along. Question - with your mega awesome building that I would go crazy inside of (building envy), couldn't you suspend an I-beam down the center length of the roof truss for a trolley and hoist? Or would the truss not support the additional load? Just thinking out loud. You've probably already considered it.
  2. kirkster70

    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    Very creative idea! Thanks, Rhyno! Cool sled, too!


    Hmmm...got me thinking...I may make something that slides into my Truck's receiver hitch. That will be uber handy for camping duties!
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    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    Hey - you never did say - what did you get into to get all broken up? I hope you heal soon!


    Hmmm...never thought about them rusting out quickly due to the metal being so thin, but that's something to consider. I'm just always brainstorming with all the junk I have amassed.

    I'm getting ready to swap out our old 50gal water heater for a new 80gal one in the next week or two when it shows up. I'm also wanting to gut the old one to make a cool little burn pit for the deck. Always something!...:lol3
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    Rhyno PrsnalityAccentuator

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    Thanks for the hope......

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  5. 9Dave

    9Dave Bazinga!

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    :rofl No, not BFF's - but the guy is so creative, I posted a comment on his YouTube page to see if he might have an idea I hadn't considered. He mentioned something about going at it from below. Then I occured to me that I had those two big pieces of I beam I bought at the same time as the Spanco, and I already had the 4" tube from another trip, and the rest just came together with the all thread and I already had the slotted angle from another project I disassembled. I did put two pieces together for additional strength.

    Yeah, the building is nice. A buddy and I own it. It was one of those deals that was too good to pass up, especially since it is a couple doors down from my house. Amazing how we can fill it up with stuff.

    I wouldn't be confident with the rafters supporting an overhead beam with a couple tons of load. They are about 12' on center. I wouldn't worry about suspending a couple hundred pounds from them, but that's about it. The reason I got the gantry is because I was about to hang a chain hoist from some chain off a truss, and then decided that would be a PITA every time I wanted to move it.

    I have thought about taking the wheels back off before mounting the beam. But I've also thought using the chain hoist to lift beam, and just wheel the A frames underneath and attach them. I have a 20' chain with hooks on each end I could attach to the top of the beam and just lift it horizontally in one shot.

    As you consider casters for your next project, I'd highly recommend the swivel locks. It's amazing how stable the A frames were on 6" wide wheels. I even unlocked one of them so I could steer the A frame around. Easy peasy.

    I've been noodling on the beam clamps all day. I have found some online for $10 a piece, half what the Spanco distributor wanted. But I've also thought of some ways to fabricate them myself. Time to head down to the barn and do some more hands on prototyping.
  6. 9Dave

    9Dave Bazinga!

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    OK Kirk - so the Spanco should live again by the weekend.

    I muscled the beam back down last night so I could some better measurements. Finally put the new machinist square to use. :thumb

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    About an 8 degree slope from the flange to the web. I found a great selection at LNA Solutions for Kee clamps. They have models for both sloped and parallel flanged beams. The ones I bought were $7 a piece.

    I had a couple ideas on how to fab my own, but in the end, especially when dealing with a slope flanged beam, this will be the safer approach.

    The clamps should be here tomorrow! Then the reassembly will be complete. :clap
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    9Dave Bazinga!

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    Got my clips UPS today. $7 a piece, vs. $18+ from Spanco.

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    Hung the chain hoist from the rafters and lifted the I Beam
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    I did wrap another chain around the hook and chain on the beam and bolted it so the beam couldn't slide sideways.

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    Have to do a little more work, move the one leg to the end, torque the clamps, check for square, mount the trolley, lift the beam to give more clearance, and then it's ready to lift!

    It started raining about halfway through, so I just backed the car inside, then drove out when I was done, and hit the button to shut the door. It's nice to have floorspace! :D :clap
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    You're doing great, Dave!


    So...what's the first big lift going to be? Do you have any heavy projects waiting on the gantry?
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    The quality and durability test of the skidplate and toolbox passed with flying colors!

    120 miles of George Washington National Forest gravel and dirt...

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    Excellent! I'm glad it still lined up after all the heat that went into it! Good looking setup!


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    H14 Live, Laugh, Love.

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    :thumb

    Love the looks of the grey DR.
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    Kirk,

    Measurements for the GSA racks:

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    Note, though the rack is different front to back, to avoid hitting the exhaust, you should keep the cut-out at 2/34" down from the top, and 2 3/4" in from the inside.

    Jim :brow
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    No huge lifts, though I did just decide that I am done taking the mower deck off to sharpen blades. Instead, I'll lift the whole thing up in the air and take the blades off from below. :evil So I will need to fab up some couple foot tall "jack stands" for safety's sake while doing so.

    May need to make a scrap yard run tomorrow. I would really like to have some fairly thin wall 1" to 2" tube to fab the supports from. I'm thinking just some fairly tall rectangles sized for the front and back wheels to fit snugly into. We'll see what transpires.
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    You da' man, Jim! Where would I be without you? :D:clap:freaky
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    That will make blade sharpening duties a fun job! Kewlio!
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    ...currently putting a vendor thread together for the next BMW pannier build...:evil:clap

    Life is good! :freaky
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    Probably spending time with your family!:deal:lol3

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    Need some 4" square tube, Kirk? I was looking for some 1 to 2" and this was all I could find. A little heavy for some jack stands. :lol3

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    I did install the cheap HF trolley and 2 ton chain fall. No way would I ever contemplate lifting 2 tons with that stuff, but for less than a thousand pounds of tractor, it's just fine.

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    I'm keeping a lookout for an electric lift. They come up every now and then on CL.

    You can't read it in the pic, but I chuckled when I noticed a sticker from Spanco that says "Made in America". Yep, and that top beam is metric spec and came from a supplier in Argentina based on the markings.

    The paint is coming of in some places, and you can see markings underneath that identified the parts, and that they didn't bother to clean off before paint.

    I'll get it cleaned up, sanded down and repainted later on.
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    Hi,

    Just found out this thread, read it from first page untill now.
    You are a great fabricator with amazing ideas.

    Just one thing, if I remember correctly, when using cable chockers the bolts should be on the long cable while the "U" should be on the short end.
    See this image -
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  20. SoPaRider

    SoPaRider Been here awhile

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    Hey Kirk:

    If I was more computer savvy I'd be able to post this pic, but since I'm just a noob, here's a link to a site that my cousin in Iowa sent me today, check out the 8th picture down on page 2 from April 16th:

    http://wliabl.tumblr.com/page/2

    Jeff