Rookie wanna-be weldor starting to make some cool things!

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by kirkster70, Oct 3, 2010.

  1. josjor

    josjor Long timer

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    I forgot to mention, I'd keep the double doors as when you're smoking you want to loose as little heat as possible when you're moving things around. I'd probably see if you could bend a piece of flat stock to match the curve of the tank and weld it inside the tank where the doors meet. That would minimize smoke leaking at that point.
  2. DirtyDog

    DirtyDog Omnia mea mecum porto

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    +1 for the double doors.

    I'm thinking you may need to wear a leather apron to stand at this smoker for very long though.:evil

    For the first burn, invite over an experienced smoker. He can give you some tips for tweaking the design.

    Looks awesome, as always.

    You may have said this, but will you be putting dampers inline with the lower stacks? That way you can supply smoke to just one side? This would in-effect make it resemble a side-firebox design somewhat, so you can have a "hot side and a cool side" for different shapes and sizes of meats.
  3. kirkster70

    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    Good info on the double doors. Either way, I still need to trim them out with flat bar to seal up any gaps.

    I have a really neat idea for both the top stack adjustable cap and for the adjustable smoke damper on the back of the stove. I hope it works. I'm waiting on the big brown truck to bring me some goodies. :evil It's low cost and should look and work awesome. I think. :D

    Having a damper on the stacks going into the cooker is an interesting idea. I think it's too late for something inside the stack, but I may be able to make a combination diffuser/cap that can slip over where the stack protrudes into the cooker. I can cut a plate to rest under the cap to choke it, but it's not something that could be adjusted on the fly.

    I'm also thinking that if the cooker is getting too much smoke/heat, I will simply open the smoke damper on the back of the stove. The dampers in the square tube may not be needed at all if that's the case.

    It will take some experimentation, but I will try not to weld myself into a corner where things need to be cut back apart to make better. I'm eager to see how the stove's smoke damper can control the cooker's temp.

    If it does well, I will just need diffusers to keep grease from dripping into the stove.

    Maybe I'll have my thermometer in place before I do the next couple heat treatings and just experiment on how hot I can get the cooker, how "cold" it can be, etc, etc by fiddling with all the dampers once in place.

    That will tell me a whole lot before I ruin the first piece of meat. Plus, I will know if I need to modify anything before trying to cook with it. Either way, it should be fun to learn and will be a good excuse for consuming beer while experimenting. ;)
  4. kirkster70

    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    Nice work, Peterman! Just don't cook the dog. :D

    If that's something you whipped up in a hurry for a gathering, you are one heck of a craftsman.

    Was that an old compressor tank? Are you using wood or charcoal with it?
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    The cool thing about him (for me) is that (I'm pretty sure) I've met Peterman before when I was in Portland. Nowthat's pretty cool that we were reading the same thread! See you when I get back I hope. Back to our regularly scheduled programming...
  6. H14

    H14 Live, Laugh, Love.

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    Kirk, the new boxes held up great on their first big trip.

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  7. kirkster70

    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    Very nice! I liked your ride report as well! Looks like you two had fun!

    ...hey Kevin, recognize anything? :D

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    It's not a winch bumper. It's a beer bumper! :evil

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    Only one problem...I didn't let the silicone in the drain holes set up long enough and lost all the ice by time we got to Bethpage. Good thing I brought the caulking gun with me. :roflI'm such a goober, I know.
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    I made the joke when we met, but now you've got major reason to drive with not a drop in your system. Worst newspaper headline ever: "Guy with tricked-out truck bumper full of beer causes accident." It wasn't me, ossifer, it was my bumper that was drunk!
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  10. HellSickle

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    Love this thread, it rings a bell.

    I just sold a KLR and used half the proceeds to pick up a 250A TIG with a water cooled torch. After a little practice, I did my first moto project this weekend.

    Next project, aluminum or chrome-moly rear racks for a DR350 and my KTM 450. I really like the idea of thin wall alloy steel for building things, but don't have much experience welding it.

    The wife wants me to explore my inner artist and thinks I should buy a plasma cutter. I'm thinking of large moving metal sculptures. :D
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    Your truck should pick up a few hp with the cold air bumper mod!
  12. H14

    H14 Live, Laugh, Love.

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    Thanks for posting that pic Kirk, it makes me feel like I contributed to the bumper project.


    BTW, we were eating breakfast at a cafe in Bar Harbor Maine last week and a guy that works there came up to us and started asking about the boxes so I showed him this thread.
  13. kirkster70

    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    :roflYeah, the "cooler mod" was a total bust.


    I did get winch box holes sealed up, but after 3 hours on the interstate, I'm lucky to have cool water at the end of it all.

    Oh well, it was worth a shot.


    Kevin, thanks for spreading the word!
  14. kirkster70

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    Back to the smoker project...

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    11 gauge (1/8") weld-on end caps sourced from an ebay vendor. 5/8" all thread welded to the cap. I intentionally oversized the O.D. by one inch for an overhang.

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    5/8" nut welded to a piece of 3/16" thick flat bar...

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    ...and trimmed to fit snugly inside the top smoke stack.

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    It's snug enough to stay in place while I plumb everything as good as possible.

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    Once I'm reasonably happy with fit-up, I fully weld it.

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    So, there's my take on an adjustable stack. I'm hoping it works well. I will have to wait and see.

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    I'm going to try something similar on the smoke damper on the back of the wood stove with a steel hub cap from a '54 Oldsmobile. Will it work? I have no idea, but it's worth a shot.

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    I found some awesome stainless steel NOS U.S. Navy surplus thermometers on ebay. This one will be used on the smoker.

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    I bought this one to put on the firebox, but I'm not sure it's needed. I just want to see how quickly I can change the temp using the dampers instead of just guessing. I don't know if 750 F is even a high enough range or not. I also found this on ebay thinking it was US made, but it's made in China. Had I known that, I would have kept shopping.

    I'm hoping to run some wood through it next week and do some testing. Getting there slowly but surely.
  15. kirkster70

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    Awesome!!!! It does sting a bit to sell the bike, but it ends up being worth it. I am excited for you and hope that you post to this thread with your projects. I'm very interested in artistic type projects myself but haven't made time for them.
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    I was wondering how that would work out. Without some insulating foam between the ice/beer and the aluminum, it would turn that bumper into the biggest heatsink in history.

    Bet the engine ran nice and cool though :D

    "Cold air intake" Lame
    "Frozen air intake" Awesome

  18. JimVonBaden

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    Needs a flexable cooler/liner with a lid and it would be fine.

    I would not want to be riding behind you though, the constantly dripping water would get annoying.:lol3

    Jim :brow
  19. kirkster70

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    Yeah, I'm bagging the whole idea. Had I planned on using it that way with some sort of drain valve in place, it would have made more sense. No worries. Now I know.




    I do the smoke damper on the stove the same as the cap on the top stack...

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    3/16" flat bar, 5/8" nut.

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    5/8" all thread welded to the hub cap.

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    I completely lucked out on how the hubcap flange meets the flange on the stove.

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    I ended up fubaring the Olds logo, but I didn't really care about that in the first place. I just thought the shape might work from studying the seller's pics on ebay. I have since peeled the chrome outer trim completely off the inner hubcap. It's getting painted high heat black anyway, so not a big deal.

    Dampers all sorted, so I turn my attention to the doors. I bend a piece of 1 1/2" x 3/16" flat bar by hand to match the tank radius. Once satisfied with the shape, I weld it in place. This seals up the gap between the doors.

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    I will still trim the outside edges of each door. After that, plugging the existing threaded holes, and installing the thermometer(s), it will be time for another test burn or two. Maybe next week if all goes well...
  20. DirtyDog

    DirtyDog Omnia mea mecum porto

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    Slick mods, bro.

    Does the stack damper seal closed relatively well?