Rookie wanna-be weldor starting to make some cool things!

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by kirkster70, Oct 3, 2010.

  1. phreakingeek

    phreakingeek rookie adventurer

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    I think it's straight argon, but i dont remember exactly what I asked for when i bought it. It glows blue/green when I'm welding.

    I also recently read that I need to may need to use some anti-spatter compound or something to keep the tip cooler and cleaner.


  2. kirkster70

    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    Look at the label on the bottle. With straight argon on MIG you will have problems just as you describe...


  3. oldNbold

    oldNbold Been here awhile

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    Straight argon is not the right choice for mig. Definitely get a tank of c25 (75/25 mix).
  4. 9Dave

    9Dave Bazinga!

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    Definitely get the proper gas mix for the wire you are using. See the manufacturer's specs and use them as a starting point.

    And while you don't want anything blowing your gas shielding away from your arc, keep some fresh air in there.

    As for anti-splatter stuff, I bought some, and never used it. If you are maintaining the correct contact tip work distance, you shouldn't have issues. That, and a pair of good Mig pliers (get some Welpers) and you can keep the tip and shield clean.
  5. DirtyDog

    DirtyDog Lust for dust.

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    But... the nozzle gel is invaluable when using a cheap mig with flux-core wire.:deal
  6. Twin-shocker

    Twin-shocker Long timer

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    Anti spatter spray is well worth using no matter what MIG set or process you might be using. Makes removal of the inevitable spatter far far easier, and no real downside to using it, as its pretty cheap and can be applied in seconds.
  7. MotoChris521

    MotoChris521 Been here awhile

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    So.. I've been looking at wire feed welders. Are they worth a dam or should I keep saving for a mig welder.
  8. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    MIG meaning Metal Inert Gas? Wire feed and MIG are basically the same thing- a welder that feeds the filler rod through the handle in the form of wire. If you mean having a gas shielded wire feed instead of a flux core wire feed, it depends on what you are going to do with it. The gas shielding makes for a MUCH cleaner weld, although in the smaller welders (110v) you can weld thicker metals with flux core wire. 6 of one, half dozen of the other. If you get a machine capable of gas, you can still run flux core wire without the gas.
  9. johns

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    Only if you can change the polarity of the machine.
  10. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    Huh. Never heard of that, and just spent a fair bit of time reading about it. Sounds like another version of "what oil should I use in my bike" topic... :eek1

    Cant say for sure but I think most wire feeds have wires inside on the back of the torch cable/hose that can be detached and switched if needed...

    Might have to do some experimenting and see what happens!
  11. kirkster70

    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    More fun with the gantry! :clap

    [​IMG]

    Why is it that the word "FREE" makes us lose touch with all reality? Free never really is. :lol3 I will re-do all the wood and get her back up to snuff. I need another project like I need another hole in my head.

    This is the GOOD side. The other side is blown out from decay and moving it. As an added bonus, it came with a built-in ant farm.
  12. NoVa Rider

    NoVa Rider Long timer

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    Whew. For a moment there I thought you were building a K70 sized steamer. . .. :rofl
  13. divimon2000

    divimon2000 Been here awhile

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    First project. First I ran a 220v 30 amp dedicated line to the garage. This is my mig Eastwood 175 with flux core (for now).

    Kickstand hoop!
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  14. DirtyDog

    DirtyDog Lust for dust.

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    T-shirt, shorts, and crocs. Mkay.
  15. kirkster70

    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    Great idea, and looks great as well!! Nice job!


    Having hairy legs does have it's advantages, but I bet there were a few OUCH, OUCH, OUCH!!!!! moments. :lol3
  16. kirkster70

    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    Hmmm........ LOBSTER POT!!!! :lol3
  17. ZEmann

    ZEmann want to be riding

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    Agree
    crocs are dangerous all by themselves let alone with molten slag dropping into them then a small brush fire that smells like leg hair running down the drive way LOL
  18. DirtyDog

    DirtyDog Lust for dust.

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    I was searching my photo archives for a pic of my arm from when I learned this lesson the hard way. I had on short-sleeves and the inside of my left arm was severely sunburned from the welding gauntlet to my bicep. That was from a small, brief welding project such as the one above.
  19. bwalsh

    bwalsh UUU, UUU!!!

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    NICE! You're going to love it! Probably the most expensive thing you'll need is the wiring to hook it up...but it will be worth it!

    A friend of mine(Greg) bought a hot tub in 1996. I was invited to used it a few times while visiting. A few years later he divorced and his wife got it.
    About 10 years ago another friend(another Greg!) was replacing his old hot tub with a new one and gave his old one to Greg.
    About 8 years back Greg's daughter was mentioning how they had stopped using the tub a few years earlier, were done with it and couldn't find anyone to take it. It was loaded on a trailer ready to be taken to the dump that weekend. :huh

    I told her I'd take it. They brought it up to my house that weekend! Had some friends and a small trailer to move it to the back of the house.
    It cost $500 in wiring and fuses to make it operational. 65'x4 of wiring is expensive! A few jets don't work quite as they should and the thermostat was stuck on high(which didn't hurt one thing) but that was it! It also has chemical stains from over treating.

    I used it for about 4 years until the heating element wouldn't turn on anymore. Turned out it was the thermostat that went bad(the only thing wrong with it). Under $30 later it was back in business, better than the day I hooked it up. Used it for another couple years.

    Unfortunately it has made the ground start to slump away from the house and is settling so one side is about 4-5" lower than the other. I really need to build a retaining wall to correct the problem. The tub has been drained and on hold until I can get a piece of machinery out here to stabilize the bank. It also needs a cover bad!

    All in all its been great! Most tubs, even if they don't work, can be fixed fairly cheap. If you need parts, I recommend this site.

    http://forums.spapartsnet.com/Forums/

    They have a forum with employees who will answer your questions and direct you to the part(s) you need.

    If you want someone to come out and give it their seal of approval use this guy.

    http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Fox.Services.LLC.540-788-4627

    Rusty knows hot tubs! Greg has used him a couple times and I had him come out and check out mine when I fired it up. He also showed me the correct way to use the chemicals. You need a lot less than you think, as long as you don't jump in dirty.

    Enjoy! [​IMG]
  20. kirkster70

    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    Awesome info! Thanks, Bob!

    Rookie wanna-be weldor / pitmaster / smoker builder / cabana boy. :lol3



    This was operational 2 days ago. He did tell me that the stat was also stuck on high. Must be a common problem.

    The bottom is mostly gone and I will probably end up re-framing the whole thing. My wife had the idea since it has to be redone anyway to use backer board and do the surround in artificial stone. That might be an interesting project. It will have to wait. I'm having a hard enough time getting BBQ 2.0 wrapped up.

    I can wire it and use it right now. I may do that and then do a revamp come spring. Mebbe.