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Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by Alleycatdad, Aug 2, 2011.
Actually I waited about 4 weeks as well...
This is what the 1/2 looks like on m y bike
To me, it's too wide open to be trustable (I could use some spacer)
And I found some 5/8 wich look better
Less rubber, but still some vynil protection
4 of them and the sandwich plan may be the solution I go with (but working on another idea)
The 1/2" conduit clamp I used does not fully encircle the tube.
1/2" is generally the ID of the conduit, so the OD varies depending on whether it is e.m.t. or rigid pipe (which, as far as straps are concerned, is the same size as PVC conduit). They are frequently labelled TW for thin wall and HW for heavy wall and the difference between them is basically one standard conduit size. In simpler language a 1/2" HW is a similar size to a 3/4" TW and a 3/4" HW the same as a 1" TW, and so on. The HW straps are usually made of heavier material. Sorry users of the metric system, this info is from the dark side only.
Now that you know more than you ever wanted to about conduit straps, let me say that I personally wouldn't use one-hole straps to mount anything that heavy. They don't hold conduit onto buildings very well, and most people don't take their homes on washboard two-track at triple digit speeds (although that sounds like fun).
The steel wrap around style with vinyl insulation are actually stronger than they deserve to be, and won't let go, just maybe get loose, but don't use the aluminum ones. Remember that these are designed more for holding wire looms, as the packaging photo suggests.
I agree. That is why I used thru bolts with 1/8" aluminum strap on the top mounting points.
Thats trouble right there!
That's really a great idea! I might have to steal this one.
Thanks. Steal away.
Thanks for the help Lycan 1
Nice work Lycan - have been messing around with some prototype sandwich ideas (no hardware required) to work with the Touratech pannier racks and this has sparked a few thoughts about how to improve.
Here's a dumb question - talked to the dealer the other day about why we get only Kolpin in Canada and no Rotopax. Answer was that the Rotopax are not approved for sale here. Anyone else heard that?
Any info on the seat? Looks like a Russel Day Long but not sure.
Thanks much. Only reason I would go Rotopax is the taller rectangular profile which looks like it would tuck in out of the wind on the back of my TT paniers - the Kolpin looks more square unless they're running some other profiles I haven't seen. As for the mounts, they look similar quality/design with either brand. Cheers.
Where do you got those seats?
Pretty good job Kevin !
I was also thinking about buiding a "sandwich" but did not had the idea to use the interior of the panier holder !
The only bad side is the welding... but the part is so simple when done... I steal too !
( will need a cross, because I have Touiratech panier)
Dual sport plus in Canada is now distributing Rotopax. http://dualsportplus.com/
Just finishing this. Ignore my ugly welds , it worked out pretty well otherwise. Hopefully will look better after going to the powder-coater.
The 2 small tabs (1/8" plate) welded to the racks are not noticeable when not being used.
The 1/4" x 3/4" steel bar can stay in place without interfering with the caribou cases
and of course the Rotopax mount can easily be attached with 2 mounting screws.
Finnally did mine this afternoon...
The way it looks is not perfect (hand made) but I'm very happy!
For starters I'm going to get my Wolfman bags and utilize some of the strap locations for their hangars which also utilize One-Wrap. Should make a good backing surface when the RotoPax aren't mounted. After some usage in the Texas heat I'm going to mount the RotoPax. I'm also going to think about maybe hanging them with the cap towards the front away from the exhaust opening.
Just to finish this off here in the thread...
I recently came across the right-sized piece of aluminum in 1/8 inch to finish the project, so I did.
Contrary to expectations, the cutting-boards worked out just fine and show no -zero- cracking or deterioration after several thousand miles.
But, they are a little flexy, and when I added the happy-trails mounts to 'em, they started to flex out away from the rack, I suspect due to the inward compression from the pucks on the round bars. No biggie, and they were secure, but they bugged me, and I had the aluminum...
I don't have fancy tools, but with one of these:
and one of these:
It wasn't too hard to get from this:
I'm actually suspicious that the PE may turn out to have been more crash-resistant than the aluminum, as it could bend and return to shape when I fall on it, whereas I think the aluminum may just bend....we will see!
Yeah, it's a Russell Day Long. Absolutely amazing seat. Ugly as sin, but comfortable. My wife and I had to race home due to Hurricane Irene, which meant a full day in the saddle from morning to night after being on the road a week and the seat was never an issue. Wife gave it rave reviews.
I use my stock seat for buzzing around town, my Renazco for long solo rides and this one for extended two up rides.