Route and track Conversion Tools and Other Goodies

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by TRZ Charlie, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. Paulie

    Paulie Been here awhile

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    Helpful stuff round here. This gps nooby's been trying to git google maps routes into my 76cx w/o lotsa futzing.

    Here's what worked (finally!)...:clap

    save my google map
    click kml & download it
    open wingdb3
    click mapsource, 22, filter 250 points, convert
    in mapsource, rename & send it to gps
    on gps, navigate the route with "don't follow road"

    I'll play round with lowering the 250 figger to try to git more "necessary" points (the ones at turns). This is Floriduh, heh. BTW the new mount worked like a champ too http://www.rammount.com/NewProducts/ezstrapmotorcyclemount/tabid/3599/Default.aspx
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  2. HBL

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    Okay, no such thing as a stupid question, right? Well, here goes :shog

    I am trying to convert .img files to .gpx files, to be used with a Garmin Montana. I have been told there are several methods to accomplish this using one or more freeware software programs, some good, some not so good, but no specific recommendations. I have also been told that the .img files cannot be read by Basecamp, to just load directly into the Montana, but I haven't had any success with this approach either :baldy

    Can anyone provide a recommended approach :ear

    The two files I am trying to convert are located here: http://www.pbfriders.com/?page_id=132

    Thanks!
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  3. Bill Murray

    Bill Murray Been here awhile

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    You should be able to load the two IMG files onto your your Montana GPS and use (enable) them. Just copy the files into the \Garmin folder on your GPS or the same folder on the µSD card in your GPS.

    I assume what you were trying to say is that you want to convert GPX files to IMG files for use on your Montana. I wrote this online article (a Google Document) for our local BMW motorcycle club to summarize the process. Let me know if you find this helpful.

    And you are correct -- IMG files cannot be read by BaseCamp.
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  4. HBL

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    Thank you for the suggestions :beer

    To clarify, I am a directionally impaired (180 degrees off, 100% of the time) father planning to introduce my two young sons to the sport at PBSF during the July 4th weekend. I can certainly save tracks and waypoints to find my way back to camp, but I am hoping to be able to have the trails available on my Montana so that I can track my position and follow the various forest roads to deliver a more expansive and entertaining trail ride over the course of a few days.

    I moved the .img files from the top level folder to the \Garmin folder and now I can see the trails on the Montana :clap so thank you!

    For perspective, I was led to believe that the .img files are "old technology" and that I would be much better served by converting to .gpx files. Yet, you are suggesting a process for converting .gpx to .img files so I am a bit confused.

    Considering the situation I have described above, am I better off traveling to PBSF with .img files or .gpx files? Again, I am simply looking to have the forest roads and current location visible on my Montana so that I can determine a path "on the fly".

    Thanks again for your time!

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  5. Bill Murray

    Bill Murray Been here awhile

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    The "short" answer is that .img files are not old technology. Rather, .img files are the map data files that are used by Garmin's GPS units. (The corresponding map files on your desktop computer are .gmap files.)

    If you are simply looking to have the forest roads and current location visible on your Montana so that you can determine a path "on the fly," you need the .img files in your Montana.

    Your Montana uses (and creates) .gpx files as data files. Simplistically, .gpx files store your routes, tracks, and waypoints. There are ways to take .gpx files and transform them into map overlays showing route and track information. The portion of my prior answer referring to that conversion was beyond the scope of what you need to be concerned with.

    When you have time, I recommend you consider reading and studying this online Wiki about the Montana GPS. It is the manual that should have come with the unit.

    Good luck with your trip with your sons.
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  6. HogWild

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    Here's a new tool for creating and manipulating GPX track files and creating roadbooks (and soon roll charts) for those track files.

    Check out the videos below, and the website itself ( RallyNavigator.com ).

    The tool runs in a web browser, with Google Earth running inside.

    For a paper roadbook, notice that the mileages (or kilometers) are calculated automatically, the initial tulip drawing is generated automatically, and in some cases the text is generated automatically. Then you can go in and tweak the tulip and text to make them just the way you want. Amazing!

    This would have been THE tool to have for creating something like TAT.

    For roll charts, I expect they will adjust a few of the features since some things are different between roll charts and roadbooks, such as the compass headings which are normally not in a roll chart.

    Videos showing some features:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PMiRictYtU
    http://www.youtube.com/embed/6-ukczF5Fvg
    http://www.youtube.com/embed/g0tjjog-pqY
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  7. TRZ Charlie

    TRZ Charlie That's MR. Asshole

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    Thanks Hog Wild, I placed the link in the resources post.
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  8. lfs225

    lfs225 Too old less bold

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    I apologize before hand if anyone has put this information out before. Sometimes these threads get so long it can be tedious to read each one before offering help.

    I use BaseCamp on my Mac. I was having problems installing the newest maps into BaseCamp. I could install them into my Zumo and my Montana but not into the BaseCamp program. I wanted the latest City Navigator North America 2014.2 to be available in BaseCamp without having to have the Zumo or the Montana hooked up to the computer.

    Garmin Tech help came to the rescue:

    The 2014.20 map reinstall has been tested with both Garmin Map Updater. Please see the instructions below.

    How do I download the maps to computer for use with BaseCamp and MapSource?
    To download the Garmin Map Updater Run the link below for the computer you are using.
    MAC
    http://download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.dmg

    Mac
    Garmin Map Updater:
    1. Double-click the Garmin Map Updater saved to the computer
    2. Double-click the Garmin Map Update on the Desktop (A new Garmin Map Update window will open)
    3. Double-click the Garmin Map Update.app
    4. Click Open if prompted with a security warning
    5. Click Continue in the Garmin Map Update
    6. Click Continue after selecting the device to update
    7. Click in the box next to "I agree to the terms of the device software license agreement."
    8. Click Continue
    9. Click the button next to "Reinstall my current maps with different installation options"
    10. Click Continue
    11. Click in the box next to "I agree to the terms of the map license agreement."
    12. Click Advanced
    13. Choose download to Mac only.
    14. Follow prompts till update begins.
    15. Click Done after the update completes

    I hope this helps someone.
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  9. lubelhu

    lubelhu Forever n00b

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    Thanks lfs225. I got mine working fine now. :1drink
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  10. jons1133

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    Has this tutorial been moved? Thanks.

    This is what I see when clicking on the link:

    "Subscription Expired
    This wiki's subscription has expired. The wiki will be reactivated once one of the wiki organizers renews the wiki's subscription. For more information, please visit this blog post."
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  11. ramz

    ramz Professional Trail Rider

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    I've been getting the same messages on other wiki pages. Someone posted a message that wiki pages are no longer free to host and was soliciting donations.

    I did find this link still works:

    http://garminbasecamp.wikispaces.com/


    :ricky
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  12. khpossum

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    Great resource. I hope it is still maintained.

    I may have missed it but I do not see http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ as as source of openstreet map files. Downloads come in different flavors and formats, but I always use the Garmin install file format. I have used this website for years and it works great. Select a country / state or select your own tiles.
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  13. khpossum

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    JavaWa tools:


    Great tool for your map installs, description copy from their website:

    You can create a backup of your maps with JaVaWa GMTK and restore these (e.g. on another computer) including unlock codes. Re-installing maps is unnecessary.
    Migration of your Garmin maps from and old computer to a new one is straightforward with this application.
    Do you want to use your maps on a second computer like a laptop or netbook? JaVaWa GMTK takes care of it.
    You can also move maps on your computer to another folder and/or disk, change names of the maps that are shown on the computer and on the device (only unlocked maps like the OpenStreetMap), change the display of maps by installing another TYP file, remove maps, check maps for errors and correct those, import unlock codes from your device and create a backup of the unlock codes.

    I have used it for years and it works great. I use it mainly to rename my various Openstreet maps installs, sometimes to repair installs, move them or to completely remove a map set


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  14. Gatorwing

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    **demo flight updated to function with google code revisions as of 11/27/2014** :baldy
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  15. 5 Hour Butt

    5 Hour Butt Been here awhile

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    I have a Garmin zumo 660LM which is the one they make for motorcycles. I use Basecamp and when I hook up the GPS I have it set to automatically download the tracks from the GPS. When it's done I can right click the track in the list and choose to make it into a route! That works really well.

    After the route is created you can use your mouse to drop it into the GPS since I'm sure you know that is the easiest way to load routes into the GPS.
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  16. ChrisMac

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    Off the many free apps listed at the beginning of this thread, in 2015, what is the best mac application for organizing and managing GPS tracks if using MotionxGPS on iphone?

    I'm sure there is a thread here somewhere on the topic of what is now the best way in 2015 without a Garmin... but I can't find it.

    Right now I am using Google Earth and following the steps below but wondering if there is a better option.

    Here is the way I am organizing tracks right now and interested if there is a better way to do this?
    1. get tracks from here or friends or GPSxchange
    2. Save the files to google drive in folders organized by state (so I can easily load them later onto motionx gps for iphone)
    3. Load the files into google earth so i can see how they all line up/interact/etc
    4. When i run into a problems with file compatibility, use GPS Visualizer
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  17. Young-Gun

    Young-Gun KTM Tragic

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    Do you stick to sealed/mapped roads? My thoughts are this would only work if you're staying on the beaten track, if you're going into the scrub or off road, I don't know if this would work. Also, do you have any issues with your route disappearing from the screen after a while? I do, then I have to reload the route while I'm riding
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  18. 5 Hour Butt

    5 Hour Butt Been here awhile

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    I actually always use the roads Basecamp shows when I make routes. Just letting you know I stay on the road. When I make routes I always name them and save them as I make them to keep them from disappearing.
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  19. Young-Gun

    Young-Gun KTM Tragic

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    Ok cool, thanks :D

    I'll eventually figure out a way to make it work for off-road rides
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  20. DrLewall

    DrLewall The Human GPS

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    one of the things we use when naming our routes/tracks is the 3 digits..example, if a rt/trk is 75 miles long, we use 075..if it is 215 miles long, then we use 215 or 0215...this really helps when you are trying to pick out a ride you only have so much time for.

    I myself use the numbers at the beginning of the name. Ex: 075whiterock.gpx

    you can do whiterock075.gpx etc

    hope this helps