RTW on a thumper... Round the World ADVenturization

Discussion in 'Epic Rides' started by rtwpaul, Jul 18, 2012.

  1. IRIDE56

    IRIDE56 Mike

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    I read your report, Going back through it with a pad and pin , For my little trip,coming in November.
    I notice you have your gear on and looking around at the people it has to be hot there,, Do you have ice in your pockets?
    Is the gear that good to keep you cool, Are you just real tough,,,,,
    and what clothing gear do you recommend....
    I got my note pad out , The back account may say no!!! Some of that Klim is high dollar stuff.
    Thanks
    Mike
  2. rtwpaul

    rtwpaul out riding...

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    riding gear is a real debatable subject, different brands, different textiles, different claims of what they will do for you as a rider...so i 'll give you my take on it

    for me personally the weather hot or cold doesn't really bother me too much either way, i lived in hot climates for years, 12 years in Nevada, then more years in Morocco, Kenya, Bahamas all really hot places, but one thing if you can get used is wearing enough clothes. Fully vented clothes or mesh gear is good when moving except it will dehydrate you a lot, so an under layer is really required (your thermal liner) and keeping it done up all the time if you can bear it, i know it sounds strange that wearing more goes against logic.

    This is where the dehydration comes in and you can avoid to some extent as when you stop yes you will sweat but once you start moving you will cool down again and your sweat will act in you favor and create an evaporative cooling type effect, think swamp cooler wind over water, your wet skin will cool you down as the breeze goes up your sleeves, keep everything closed and this will last longer...obviously wetting your shirt down will act as the same thing, or a cooling vest is good.

    no for the reason for Klim or some equivalent high dollar gear...

    if you ride a lot, for me 63,000 in the last 22 months for example, you will wear a lot of brands gear out, literally and you will replace it, so do this a few times and you end up at Klim, the quality far exceeds the cheap companies and if you had bought it in the first place you would be ahead of the game (dollar wise) and it does perform better, much better, holds up better in an off, quality and price by design i guess i'm saying here - i am a good example of this, i have worn out most of my gear and have new Klim gear sitting waiting to go for the next segment of my ride

    for cold weather...as long as my hand are warm i'm good - so heated grips :evil

    just remember if its not Goretex and some companies alternate version of it, then its not Goretex and it won't work the same even if they claim it will

    hope all this rambling helps :rofl:rofl:rofl
  3. IRIDE56

    IRIDE56 Mike

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    Thanks for the reply.
    AS some one that has been in the medical field for a long time what you say sinks in...
    And you are the second person that has given Klim high marks..
    Almost all the pants I have reviewed on Klim have had bad remarks in high heat and humidity
    which one do to wear???
    and any thing past Mexico the paper maps are a bitch to track down,,,
    Thanks
    Mike

  4. MeinMotorrad

    MeinMotorrad Long timer

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    You could try these people in London: http://www.stanfords.co.uk/Countries/

    You'll see a search by destination button on their website - don't use it, all the links on that page are incorrectly written - just use the link above to keep things simple.
  5. AndyT

    AndyT Been here awhile

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    Try these guys: http://www.itmb.ca/ Their stuff is available on Amazon, or at Barnes & Noble.
  6. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    Gore-tex gear works better in COLD than in heat. And don't forget doing S. America means just as much COLD as heat. Once you're up in the Andes of Ecuador, Peru', Bolivia and Patagonia ... it's cold, rainy windy.

    So you need gear to cover both situations.
    In heat I wear dirt riding gear with my own elbow, knee, and back protector.
    My jacket has armor removed, I just wear it OVER my armor ... and in heat strap it back of bike. Simply, cheap rain gear adds extra warmth over any decent riding jacket.
    I wear leathers in cold. I carry both. The dirt pants pack down to nothing and leathers are good up to about 85F.

    Honestly guys ... you really don't need a $1250 made in China Klim jacket.
    Sure, they are well made and designed. But there's much more to it ... it's really a simple issue.
  7. Dracula

    Dracula Deus ex machina

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    My Goretex REV'IT! Everest GTX Jacket stayed at home for my Alaska trip. Too hot when when is hot and not enough warmth due to it's breath-ability when really cold. And I had plenty of both extremes with 40F in Alaska and 125F coming back in July last year.

    Totally agree, all in one suit compromises don't work for me in extremes of heat or cold.
    Just used the REV'IT! Sand which works well in hot weather, supplementing with layers and a Motoport rain suit on really cold and or rainy days.
    For all in one, my 10 year old Roadcrafter still rocks, but has it's limitations. At least they custom make them to your size and you can get it repaired for many years since the company stands behind their product.
  8. sonnyboy

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    must be that sign of dementia,:deal Thanks enjoying the the places you showing and taking the good with the bad.
  9. rtwpaul

    rtwpaul out riding...

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    +1 on this for paper maps, they are usually the most up to date out there, but buy them in the states, difficult to find once you are south of the border... and if you use GPS get your maps from http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ they are free and updated a lot
  10. rtwpaul

    rtwpaul out riding...

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    true but if you are on the road for very long periods you just have to deal with it, or end up looking like a pack mule



    this is so true, in the 80's and 90's i did long trips 15,000 miles plus wearing jeans and a leather jacket, and carrying fishermans waterproofs...don't let the budget of riding gear stop the overall objective 'THE TRIP' get what you can afford and go, it'll all work in the end
  11. Dracula

    Dracula Deus ex machina

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    You are absolutely right and it's a PITA to deal with :deal

    Proof of my own lack of packing skills. I hope next trip I'll be wiser.:rofl

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  12. sturmgewehr

    sturmgewehr Adventurer

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    Had I been following along, you could have crashed at my place, I live 1/2 mile from Garmin! Enjoying the report.
  13. daveburton

    daveburton Been here awhile

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    Hi Paul,

    Hope all going well with yourself.

    Thanks for the maps advice, I'm about to try and download some to see how they work.

    Do you have a thread that covers the bike. With that kind of mileage it would be great to see what you did and why and what you thought was nice to have together with what you considered essential. A lot of people are using the Rotax based bikes for difficult terrain whilst others are choosing the KLR. The 660 seems to be the other option as it has injection and more power than the KLR and a bit more than the Rotax I think.

    Would you use the same again.

    cheers dave
  14. rtwpaul

    rtwpaul out riding...

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    thats for the belated offer, if i am close to you again i'll contact you so we can have a drink :freaky
  15. rtwpaul

    rtwpaul out riding...

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    slowly getting things done here...

    do smaller selections of the maps and save them as unique files (for example don't do the whole of south america, break into countries or regions) they are very detailed, more so than garmin of the similar areas

    i have a report about all the upgrades and changes i did to the XT HERE

    would i pick it again...yes for the type of riding i did want it for, a KLR isn't and will never be a bike i own for lots of reasons but i am changing my bike to something very different, its actually sitting in my garage right now...i'll fill in more details of what i'm doing/ riding in the coming weeks. :huh too much other crap to deal with than that right now :lol3
  16. JDowns

    JDowns Sounds good, let's go!

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  17. daveburton

    daveburton Been here awhile

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    Now you have me guessing.

    Uly trike .... ??

    dave
  18. rtwpaul

    rtwpaul out riding...

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    here's a photo of the garage i just moved into and when i get a few minutes i'll get some shots of it...its under one of those covers :wink:

    just a few pounds heavier than your sherpa John, more than double the horse power, and when i'm done with it i'll have 31 liters of fuel, and Dave its not a trike or a BMW

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  19. rtwpaul

    rtwpaul out riding...

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    right back at ya...circa 1998 with TOO much luggage on a 19,000 mile road trip on a V Max of all things :lol3:lol3:rofl:rofl:lol3:lol3

    note the high end riding gear we were talking about :deal:wings:rayof:p3rry...we don't need no stinkin' Goretex

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  20. Dracula

    Dracula Deus ex machina

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    Ha! Am sure that thing went very fast on very straight roads :D

    So what's the prize for guessing ??
    My bet is on a Husky, but of course I can be totally off and can't wait to see what it is .. :rofl