S100 motorcyle wash= not good times!

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by deezildennis, Sep 11, 2012.

  1. deezildennis

    deezildennis Its a what?

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    I have been hand washing my Ssr rowdy for over a year with just car wash soap in a bucket and it has been fine. Unfortunately my neighbour let me try a product called S100 motorcycle wash and it stripped the gloss right off all the black tubes on the bike. It did some damage to his old s50 1400 paint he has as well. We washed the bikes right after it rained and my bike was cool from sitting in the garage. I bet the stuff didn't even sit on it for over a minute before we rinsed them off.

    I'm Really bummed out the bike it has Damn near looked new for a while even with the sun beating on it. I waxed it pretty good on every painted part this summer and It didn't hurt the paint on the plastics but destroyed the finish on every tube on it. Wax did not seem to bring back any of the luster either. It's like a flat black on the tubes now.

    Crying shame.
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  2. knucklehead90

    knucklehead90 Been here awhile

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    Wash the wax off and try a tire shine product on the affected parts.
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  3. deezildennis

    deezildennis Its a what?

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    I think it ate the wax off but I will try the tire shine.
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  4. fullmetalscooter

    fullmetalscooter Let me take this duck off

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    Lets hope it was the wax. For real bad jobs I ve used calforna clay bar which take off the dirt etc but doesn't remove pants.
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  5. MacNoob

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    What do you mean by "tubes"? Painted steel frame members? Rubber hoses?

    Rubber hoses are naturally a drab flat greyish black colour. They're only shiny black when some kind of rubber dressing is used. A mist of Armour All works well, or tire dressing.
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    deezildennis Its a what?

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    I am talking about the exposed gloss black painted tubes all over the bike.
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  7. JerryH

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    Are you sure it was S100 "cycle cleaner", or S100 "wheel cleaner". Years ago I mistakenly washed a bike with the wheel cleaner, and it did just what you said. But I have used S100 cycle cleaner many times, and it worked great. Main problem is price. Not cheap. Simple Green is almost as good, and much cheaper. NEVER use Castrol Superclean, it will remove the paint and clearcoat real quick. I have in fact used it for paint remover. I also used it on KLR plastics before painting them. It sucked the oil right out of the plastic and left a very dull looking surface, perfect for paint.
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  8. deezildennis

    deezildennis Its a what?

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    It is in a white spray bottle, total cycle cleaner or something to that effect.

    The tire shine slicks it up but it evaporated overnight. I am going to strip the plastics off of it this weekend and My neighbor and I are going to try and cut and buff the stock paint.

    If that doesn't work I am going to tear the whole damn thing down and have the frame blasted and powder coated..


    It's pretty crazy but After having a ton of bikes through the years this my cheapest new bike but it is my most utilized bike and I am almost sick over it.... silly I know..

    Damn thing looks like it sat out in the AZ sun for 10 years..
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  9. JerryH

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    Strange. Even Harley recommends it.

    If it had set out in the AZ sun for 10 years, there wouldn't be any paint on it. Or rubber or plastic. But it would not be rusted. Things just do not rust here. My used to be dark blue '01 Chevy Malibu is a sort of spotted gray. Most of the clearcoat burned off, the paint underneath is a chalky gray, the tire sidewalls are rotted, the dash and seats are all cracked, the plastic bumper covers are all deformed, cosmetically it is junk, mechanically it is fine, runs like new with 115,000 miles on it. Guy across the street bought a new Vette several months ago, his garage is full of junk, and it is sitting out in the driveway. Makes me sick every time I see it. $64,000 car and it will be junk in a few years.
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    bbishoppcm It ain't a moped.

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    Funny... up here in the great white north, cars rot away usually within five to fifteen years of manufacture... but our interiors never fade, crack, or discolor. So here's my proposition; you send me your rust-free cars, and I'll return them with perfect junkyard interiors from NH, thus making the cars new again. For a nominal fee, of course...
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  11. deezildennis

    deezildennis Its a what?

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    Ok so five years in the AZ sun. Sheesh :)

    I have been doing a few searches on the net and it looks like there may be a few other instances of this affecting all sorts of surfaces on bikes including Harleys.

    I wont be using it again that's for sure.

    This also did some damage to my neighbors s50 frame.
    Sort of matted his out a little bit as well.


    For friggs sake...:cry
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    That really sucks. Maybe I won't be using it again. It's possible they changed the formula. Simple Green is still a safe and much cheaper alternative.
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    deezildennis Its a what?

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    I cleaned my helix off when I got it with straight simple green it worked great! But if I get the paint shining again on the rucklone it'll be car soap and water from here on out.
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    Deezil, I'm almost sick just reading about your mishap. I only found this forum because of your Rowdy thread and I feel for you. I hope you have some luck bringing it back.
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    Try some Honda Spray Cleaner and Polish on the frame. It should put the oil back into the paint that the cleaner took out.

    You're not the only one with frame paint problems. I recently cleaned the engine on my Vulcan 750 with some Gunk degreaser. The engine came out fine, but a lot of paint came off the lower frame tubes, which had been soaking in oil for several years. It's 10 years old with 74,000 miles, so I wasn't that upset, but I was a little disappointed. I bought it new, and that is the only noticable cosmetic damage it has. With that many miles it is not worth tearing down to repaint or powdercoat the frame.
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    Be careful with Simple Green, it's not intended for alloy metals (it's on the label). You're better off using a basic car wash from Target or Walmart.
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  17. JerryH

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    While it does say that, I have used it on all my bikes, and never had a problem. It is a very mild cleaner. Very few motorcycles actually have any exposed alloy parts. Virtually all the alloy parts are clear coated. And you don't need to leave it on very long. Simple Green is an emulsifying cleaner that does it's job very quickly. It's best at getting oily dirt out of cracks and crevices that you can't get to. Spray some Simple Green in there, and hit it with a blast of water (from a garden hose nozzle, NOT a pressure washer, and it will usually come right out. It's a lot milder than engine degreasers like Gunk, which will definitely dry out both paint and clear coat, and in my case, even removed some paint.
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  18. Mikegigabyte

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    only time water ever hits my bikes is if I took them on dirt roads

    all other cleanings is with sc1 spray
    its like a silicon spray smells like cherries

    makes all rubber parts black and glossy and plastic shiny
    been using that for years on a bunch of bikes even ones that are over 30 years old
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    Weird, I've been using S100 and Hondabrite for probably 20 years, its the best cycle cleaner I've used. I'm not sure what happened to you, thats a bummer.
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  20. JerryH

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    I don't ride street bikes off road. I have an XT225, which is primarily used off road/on dirt roads, and it almost never gets washed. I believe constant washing does more damage than leaving it dirty, except for the chain and air filter.

    Here in AZ, the biggest problem with keeping streetbikes clean is dust. Even parked in a garage and not ridden, dust settles all over them. My method of dealing with that is to use a 2 gallon pump up garden sprayer (bought for the purpose and never had anything else in it) filling it with distilled water, and using it to rinse the loose dust off. On a really nice streetbike, I never touch the paint with any kind of rag or cloth until it has been thoroughly washed and rinsed with a soft bristled paint brush. Trying to wipe dirt off paint with a rag will scratch the paint, even if you use a spray on cleaner, because you have dirt between the rag and the paint.

    Where I live we have what we call "salt water" that comes out of the faucet. It is very acidic, and will leave LOTS of spots, which will eventually etch the paint. Even after washing a bike with soap/cleaner, I spray it down with distilled water to rinse the salt water off, especially in tight places. If you don't get it out of there, it will start corrosion. I also use a shop vac with a blower. I will eventually get a compressor, so I can use compressed air, but don't have one yet.


    As far as what to use to dry a bike after actually washing it, I have found VIVA paper towels to be perfect. They do not scratch like other paper towels, and can be wadded up or twisted up to get into some pretty tiny places to get the water out. I usually use a whole roll of them while drying and detailing a bike.
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