Thanks for that Berty. This time last year, the Mongolata Rd hadn't been graded for some time and some of the crossings typically looked like below. There were a number of nasty washouts, but had all pretty well been cordoned off, or were out of the way. September last year I was back up there, and it had all been recently graded........very disappointing Have to se what this time round brings, but thanks for the heads-up. Pete and I both have 600+km ranges, and the 2 others will have extra fuel (or can just syphon off me). If you go through Canegrass, would love to hear about it. I want to get up to Danggali at some stage. and surrounds.