Sacramento Riders Thread DS & ADV

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by Parx400, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. PatSmith

    PatSmith Been here awhile

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    Arden Arcade here.
    I just found this forum and would like to know if a green sticker will be ok on these rides or if I need a street legal bike. Thanks
  2. 2manyrides

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    Nope,
    You can truck it up to a spot like chalk bluff and ride the trails there. Maybe skirt the issue a bit and slide on down to washington or something, but you're just going to run into to many places where "you can't get there from here" type of thing. In 2010 the forest service came up with a new travel plan that even requires a plate on the dirt roads level 3 or higher. So green sticker means trails and 2 track jeep trails. Some ohv riding locations route dirt bikes on roads that they have designated as multi use so ohv riders can get from trail head to trail head, but your just not going to be able to run around the county on a dirt bike any more.

    Watch for ride postings that say it's a green sticker ride. Or get a plated bike. It's a drag!

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  3. PatSmith

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    Thank you. Next question is air cooled or water cooled bike. BTW, I have been riding for 30+ years and race MX. just branching out into trail riding
  4. 2manyrides

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    Hey Pat,
    air or water...Hmmm,
    I have no water cooled bikes, so I can't really speak for what's better.
    Obviously if a water cooled bike isn't having any hic-up's like leaks or thermastat problems then that'd be fine. The two riders in my group that have one have both had "situations" where the day was cut short due to overheating. Plus you've got more stuff on your bike. Fans, coolant, hoses and stuff. Still, there's a shift towards them out there from what I see on the trail. What bbike depends on what kind of riding you want to do.
    525 KTM and XR650R...
    Then again, in the high country, on a 100+ day, slow going on a rocky long up hill climb I've reached 313 degrees on my xr600r so it's half a dozen of one and 6 of the other. Typical an air cooled bike trail riding is not a problem and you don't HAVE to have a water cooled bike.

    I might have mis led you a bit on my previous post as my group does do ohv only rides. There are less of that these days though, because we've gone to most all nearby places enough and my main goal is to explore, reach mountain tops, lakes, creeks and meadows. So the cherished ohv runs are more happening when there's an extended camp out in the summer. And in the high country.

    Dualsport is a compromise, but you can jump from place to place and circle back around on the pavement if ya have to. You can link multipal locations together you wouldn't be able to on an ohv. As well through out the last 5 years or so I have been returning to places I had not visited in 30 years because as things changed it becomes impractical to go there and be locked in to a smaller area with an ohv. 30 years ago things were much more wide open. off highway vehicel use has risen 80% in those thirty years and they just have to regulate it or things get wrecked.

    BTW welcome to the forum!
  5. scottrnelson

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    You generally get better power with a water cooled bike, but the simplicity of an air-cooled bike has its advantages. I've had a few motocross bikes that were water cooled, and that was great. Currently, I have an XR650L which is air cooled, and I prefer it that way.

    Look around at the water cooled KLR650's and how many have extra junk on there to protect the radiators, or to hold things in place that were damaged in a crash. Air cooled means one less thing to have to worry about.
  6. PatSmith

    PatSmith Been here awhile

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    Thanks guys for the input.
  7. ElDorado650

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    New to Adventure Rider - but have been riding 37+ years now.
    Though I have my CR500AF, my bike of choice is the good old XR650L.
    There is something about a plate that makes up for so many other things.

    I am on Motherlode Dual Sport and Thumper Talk, but Motherlode is pretty dead,
    and Thumper Talk is useless for Nor Cal as so many jackass' have taken over you
    cannot even post a decent ride report, let alone God forbid, you spun a tire in the dirt and
    caused some dirt displaced.

    Anyways - off my soap box and onto looking at rides in the area.

    I live in Mount Aukum and Gold Note/Elkins Flat is only a 15 min jaunt on the slab
    from my house, so I know that area real well.

    I hook up with some guys from Forest Hill and Auburn and ride the Colfax, Power-House, etc. stuff a lot.
    But - am always open to riding something new.

    I am a decent rider and the bike, though not great looking, is very well maintained.

    Just thought I would post a little here and maybe tag into some rides in the area.
    Or, if anyone is interested in the Pipi, Omo Ranch, Highway 88 area - I am always riding there.

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    Good Ride - Bad approach (the chain saw in the bag for trail maint didn't help):
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  8. scottrnelson

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    I also have an XR650L and would like to participate in more dual sport rides.

    You can check out the Gold Country Dual Sport Riders on Yahoo : http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/GCDSR/ for more dual sport group rides. Although in a year and a half, I've only managed go on one of their rides. But I have good intentions.

    You also might try the XR650-specific group on ThumperTalk: http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/14-xr600650/
    Not an awful lot of traffic, but if you watch it, you'll eventually get a lot of good information about the bike.

    Or hang out here. Hopefully this group can put together a few good group rides too.
  9. ElDorado650

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    I have been all over Thumper Talk since 2004.
    Was great - now - not so much.
    The 650 portion is good - caught a few tips there.

    I think GCDSR is more fire road and not single track.
    I will check it out though.

    I am just looking for other places that post rides.
    Riding solo is fun at times, but a ride is usually more fun in a group.
  10. 2manyrides

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    Keep us posted on the snow melt/access at elkins as the spring comes and we'll join you there. Right now there's not much can be done but relish the thought of the high sierras opening up again. Or of course lots of blacktop and little single track available. It is kind of fun to do the april 150 with GCDSR. I think for me last year that was the 180 riding from down here.
    I've seen you name avatar on the motherlode forum. I have not joined them on a ride.
  11. scottrnelson

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    There is also some dirt and mud to practice in at the base of the foothills. I had some fun on Latrobe/Michigan Bar/S Shingle on Dec 31:

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    Seems like GCDSR has slowed down a bit. The official rides are mainly fireroads but there are a few people on the board that post singletrack rides. The April 150 has been a good ride the last few years. I also just found out about SCR dirt board and they seem to have fairly regular rides but I haven't been to any yet.
    Yeah, yeah, I know, crotch rockets are no good in the dirt.

    http://www.sacramentocrotchrockets.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25&order=desc
  13. 2manyrides

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    Yea, I know Scott, although I would typicaly not even go out Latrobe, we did a run on it early part of last year in order to get tires dirty. He, he...practice! ??? OK, one of these days we'll hook up with you...

    The industrial sound in the background is a recording of my motor slowed down.
    Because Latrobe road is not some kind of big challenge...I took a relic of yesteryear...

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    Another go round for the lowest laying area is the camp far west/smartville route. At least with that one ya can get out and do some highspeed dirt. You can swing around and exit the area through wolf road. You can stop in at the old town of spenceville and take the hike around the loop. Old bomb test site, washed out bridge. Lotta times with that one our loop includes a trip cross the N F American at ponderosa.

    For those who had eyes shut last april...here's that 150 through my camera eye...

    I'll go on the 2013 this year if they have one.
    I expect each and everyone of you posters on this thread to go too...
    We'll meet up!

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  14. StuInFH

    StuInFH Been here awhile

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    Where is everybody? The dirt was perfect last weekend!

    I posted a ride on GCDSR for last weekend and got not a single response. wth?

    Same post on MLDS and thankfully Eldo graciously drove all the way from Mt Aukum to join me. We didn't see anyone until late in afternoon.

    Is everyone waiting for dust and heat and kid's soccer game conflicts to return? Sarcasm aside, I understand if you're waiting for the high country to open up, but we rarely see anyone up there either!

    Remember when you would rush through your chores to ride a Briggs & Stratt powered mini-bike in the vacant lot? Not every ride has to be epic. I'm thinking this site has raised the bar so high many sit home unless we're going someplace post-worthy.

    Like Stallone (almost) said in F.I.S.T.; Get out and ride!

    p.s., Eldo is being his usual modest self; if you can out climb that guy on his Ladies Bike I don't want to ride with you either. ;-)
  15. 2manyrides

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    Thank's for the prodding!
    :deal
  16. scottrnelson

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    You need a little bit more advanced notice. Sending out a note late at night for the next morning doesn't even get to those of us who receive GCDSR in digest form in time.

    Plus I already had something Saturday morning until 10:00.

    I want to participate, but sometimes it takes a few days for me to be able to schedule a ride.
  17. StuInFH

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    I emailed it about 330 pm Thursday, and got my copy via groups right after that. Actually, I don't even check email after 4 on Friday, given only dialup at home. I can get texts though and feel free to call.

    Admittedly, you are essentially right, even two days before is "late notice" for some, and I agree, everyone is busy.
    FWIW here's how I (and at least one other guy I know) schedule the next ride; come in late sat or sun from a great ride and say/plan: I'm gonna do that again! Then when the next sat or sun morning comes I ride whatever sounds best, even solo if I have to. And yeah, I know I have the luxury of empty nest/understanding wife and all that.

    p.s., I posted up on MLDS on Monday this time. See you saturday? :D
  18. scottrnelson

    scottrnelson Team Orange

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    What's MLDS?

    As long as you start at 10:00 or later, I'll come. Once again I have a commitment from 8:00 to 10:00. And I really do need to get out on the bike in some dirt.
  19. StuInFH

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    hmm, I checked my GCDSR post and it turns out I sent the invite thursday pm (so I corrected post above), and I had a link to MLDS, so maybe you confused my post with that Delta ride one? no matter

    MLDS used to be an active DS site, now it is about PMS.

    10 is fine, been a bit frosty on roll out anyway.

    Stu
  20. scottrnelson

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    Okay, I joined MLDS, but it's taking them a while to send my account information out.

    But I see your ride listed in the forum anyway. The only issue is that I'm available at 10:00 in Folsom, it will take me another hour to get to Foresthill. Once my account comes through, we can discuss it over there.