Safari bike pics - past & present

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  1. troy safari carpente

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    As I remember Mick had an Acerbis tank on the KLX at the Center Trek and the Safari in '93 but as the shot of the #4 bike shows, he may well have had the bigger glass tank on it for some of the (longer) days in 1993 as well...

    It was definately the glass tank which wast totaled* and burnt in 1994.

    *to say the tank "split" is probably a bit of an understatement... when he hit the back of the Japanese car... it opened it up like a can opener and dumped most of the fuel onto the hot engine and header pipe... hence the instant inferno.
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    Interesting. Ridden by a Japanese entrant I'm guessing... I don't suppose anyone knows how it finished up?

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    Youchiro Shige... Honda CRM 250 (2 stroke). 12th O/A
    1993 Sydney-Darwin Australian Safari
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    The SuperTenere is still alive and living here in Adelaide. The chap who owns bought it off of Steve Chapman and has been using it on and off as an adventure tourer. In fact its being serviced at the moment in readiness for a trip up to this years Finke Desert Race. I'll grab some pictures of it when I next catch up with the owner.
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    "Mini" Safari bikes... thru the ages.




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    Not forgetting TK won the 250s on a humble DR Suk one year ( God bless him)




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    Yes sir... he did! :nod 1999 he won the 250cc class and backed up in 2000 to take the 400cc production class on a DRZ 400E (and beat team mate; former World 500cc grand Prix Champion - Kevin Schwantz on an identical bike - to boot! :D).

    The theme of the last few posts and topic of "small capacity bikes" in the Safari made me go back and look at some statistics. Now bearing in mind since the WA rebirth of the Safari in 2007; the trend at the front of the pack has seen a tendancy to go back to the more nimble 450/530cc single cylinder enduro based type machines (as opposed to the big 600cc+ fourstroke singles that dominated from 1985 to 2004), and the terrain and style of the race today, clearly favours a better handling offroad bike, than the big desert landyachts of yestyear.

    So for anyone considering a 250cc or sub 400cc mount for the Safari this year, here is a quick (not comprehensive) list of those riders who have achieved a class win/finish in Australia's premier multi day endurance event before; certainly something to strive for... :clap

    WINNERS of the "tiddler" classes - Oz Safari 1985 to 2011...

    1985: John Crawford KLR 250
    1986: John Taylor DR200 (4th OUTRIGHT!!!)
    1987: Fred Powell TT350 (7th outright) Class H2
    1987: Ahihiko Sawachi XR250R (12th outright) Class H1
    1988: Fred Powell TT350 (9th outright) Class H2
    1988: No H1 250cc class machine finished.
    1989: Fred Powell TTR 250 (9th outright)
    1989: Allan Cunynghame KDX 250 two-stroke (10th outright)
    1989: Hisao Usami (Japan) DR 200R prod.
    1990: Allan Cunynghame KX 250 two-stroke (5th outright)
    1991: Wayne "Magic" Leonard DR 350 prod.
    1992: Geoff Olholm DR 350 (2nd outright)
    1992: Kay Kilgariff KTM 350 EXC (first woman to EVER officially finish the Safari).
    1993: Bryan Clague XR 250
    1994: Hisao Yoshimoto (Japan) TTR 250 Raid
    1995: Tsukasa Saito (Japan) DR 350
    1995: Rod Hinton XR 250
    1995: Kay Kilgariff XR 250 (3rd 250cc class/first placed women).
    1996: Lee Palmer DR 250
    1996: Urban Lindholm (Sweden) DR 350
    1996: Tim Scriven XR 400 (4th outright!)
    1997: Rod Hinton XR 250
    1997: Hiroyuki Shinkado (Japan) DR 350
    1997: Tim Scriven XR 400
    1998: No Safari conducted
    1999: Tony Kirby DR 250
    1999: Tim Scriven XR 400
    2000: Shuji Sintoku (Japan) DR 250 prod.
    2000: Daniel Autricht TTR 250 impr. prod.
    2000: Tony Kirby DRZ 400E prod.
    2000: Casey McCoy XR 400 impr. prod. (2nd OUTRIGHT!!!)
    2001: David Schwarz WR 250F prod.
    2001: Craig Hartley WRF 250F impr. prod.
    2001: Ian Nitschke WR 400F prod.
    2001: Jamie Oniell WR 400F impr. prod.
    2002: Takeaki Kawasaki (Japan) XR 250
    2003: Alison Parker WR 250F prod. (female winner)
    2003: Allan Cunynghame WR 450F prod.
    2003: Makato Morimoto (Japan) WR 250F impr. prod.
    2003: Stuart Morgan WR 450F impr. prod.
    2003: Mark Eland WR 250F super prod.
    2005: No Safari conducted.
    2006: No safari conducted.
    2007: Cesare Dal-Farra DRZ 400E (12th outright)
    2007: Fred Powell DRZ 400E (20th outright)
    2007: John Gregory TTR 250 (35th outright)
    2008: Brian Morris DRZ 400E (29th outright)
    2008: Joshua Petrig WRF 250F (35th outright)
    2009: Anthony Bakker DRZ 400E (11th outright)
    2009: Joshua Petrig WRF 250F (13th outright)
    2009: Mark McConnell DRZ400E (18th outright)
    2009: John Gregory TTR 250 (24th outright)
    2009: Ito Kazunori (Japan) 2004 XR 250 (39th outright)
    2010: David Winterburn 2001 XR 400 (34th outright)
    2010: Heath Young KTM 250 EXC-f (12th outright)
    2010: Norihishi Matsumoto (Japan) KTM 250 EXC-F (38th outright)
    2011: No sub 450cc finishers.
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    for the two smoker Safari-files

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    While we're stat-bashing, any idea about the DNF rate of the various class bikes?

    No idea... other than to say (historically) the percentage of standard/stock engined bikes finishing rate, compared to performance modified engines (regardless of capacity) is in favour of the less modified group. Whether that's indicative of the fact that the "stars" go harder and retire as the result of mechanical failure crashes, or that "stock is best" as Hedge used to say, is up for debate?

    Also, when (and who) was the last to start and/or finish the Safari on a 2-stroke?

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    As far as I can remember/determine, this bloke was the last to complete the Safari on a two stroke bike;:deal

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    Youchiro Shige... Honda CRM 250 (2 stroke). 12th O/A
    1993 Sydney-Darwin Australian Safari.

    Other notable two stroke finishers I can pull out of my hat are;:deal

    1991/1992 Dr Kay Kilgariff from Alice Springs, attempted to become the first female moto competitor to finish the Australian Safari.
    Kay was an experienced Finke Desert Race competitor and chose a two stroke KTM 350 Enduro to ride. Unfortunately, some mechanical woes
    (gearbox I think) put her out only a day or so from Darwin in 1991...

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    but she came back in 1992... rode the horror stretch across the Simpson
    and became the first woman to ever finish, on the same 350 EXC.

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    In 1992 Luc Grawodja of France rode the Safari on a unique monococque rear subframed Kawasaki KX 500cc (2 stroke) Rallye Special.
    It detonated somehere in the central Northern Territory somewhere as I remember, but struggled to the finish in darwin amongst a cloud of blue smoke.

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    Allan Cunynghame competed twice (1989: 10th and 1990: 5th) on two different Kawasaki KDX/KX 250 two stroke based machines.
    Here he is in 1990 on the KX perimeter framed bike...
    still to this day one of my favourite (and the trickest, most unique, best looking) Safari bikes ever built.:deal
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    Also in 1990 Oz ADV inmate Rustybucket rode an RMX 250 in the 1990 event and finished second to AJ in the (unofficial) two stroke battle and 13th overall.

    As far as reliability is concerned, surprisingly a fairly high percentage of the watercooled two strokes that have started... have made it to the finish... so statistically it is surprising that more have not tried. Perhaps the prospect of losing ones sanity riding a "ring ding dinger" five or six thousand kilometers across the country put many off...? :lol3
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    :deal


    Ahh, Troy, my memory might be failing, as I cannot remember the exact year, 'bout 1989 or '90, but it was a Safari that transported from Sydney straight to Cobar, or was it Condobolin, a Japanese Hero, entered and started on a 80cc machine, I think it was a Suzuki, but memory....

    Anyway he found the transport a little hard and withdrew.....

    But the fact is, at sometime a 80cc bike actually started the Safari.

    The fact that he got less than 600Km out of 5 or 6 thousand, is irrelevant.

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    By jingo's GT you are right :clap:clap:clap (I'd forgotten that one as well). I think it was in 1990 (when we did the prologue out at Wonderland in Penrith). The first afternoons transport was out the Great Western Highway over the Blue Moutains via Katoomba and Lithgow and then on to Condobolin for the first overnight stop... and as you have now woken that memory, I recall that the bike did come into Condo on the back of either Greenies or dawso' ute... with the little "Hiro" probably asleep in the back of Reidy's Troopy (SWEEP) as was often the case. :wink:

    And for the record... I believe it was a Kawasaki KX 80cc he was on.

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    Oh... and while we're on the topic of trick little 250cc Safari bikes...

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    There were a few of them that ran in the event 1990 and 1991...

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    This should fill in the 1987 and 1988 results.
    1987

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    Motorcycle catagories in 1987 and '88 were - Marathon G1 Up to 250cc
    G2 251cc - 500cc
    G3 501cc - 1000cc

    Improved Production H1 Up to 250cc
    H2 251 - 500cc
    H3 501 - 1000cc

    In 1987 Fred Powell came 7th outright riding a TT350 (346cc) Class H2
    Ahihiko Sawachi arrived in 12th outright riding an XR250RH in Class H1

    In 1988 Fred Powell finished 9th outright riding a TT350 in Class H2
    No H1 class machine finished.

    Just a little point worth noting re: 1989 - the fast KDX blue- smoke couldn't beat a lowly 250cc Yami TT250 4 stroke:D
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    Thanks "A"... I thought I could rely on you to fill in that part of history... :clap I put the question marks in hoping you would... :lol3

    Have duly copied your contributions into the "tiddlers" winners table, and included those dead sea scoll "Wynns transcripts" from '87/88 into my database for future reference... tah! :clap
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    I think this bloke burgo might remeber the year.He was telling me about it a while back.I thought it blew up on the transport.
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    Seems they were around well before the late 80s, at least in Enduros

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    No worries mate, I think we have enough '85 - '89 memorabilia to pop a server's pooper valve if I dared to upload it all!
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