San anonio highways are INSANE!

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by AirforceGSRider244, Sep 6, 2013.

  1. Bearsfatha

    Bearsfatha Pirate on a GS!

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    Sorry some idiot hit you, but I'm glad you made it out OK. Lucky for all of us bikes can be fixed. However, as a friend of my says, "You can't 'fix' stupid." And there are a lot of stupid people out there. I've ridden in SA for a many years and have had my share of close calls, but I find it to be like most big cities. Too many people, in too big a hurry, with too little care for the other people traveling around them. Yes, 281 and 1604 are a nightmare most of the time, so I avoid riding there and several other areas of town. But, the Hill Country is beautiful, the Twisted Sister's are fairly close and challenging, and the Mexican food totally rock!

    Like I said, I'm really glad you made it out OK. Ride safe and smart.
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  2. Heyload

    Heyload Remastered Classic

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    Actually, 281 north of 1604 used to be basically two lanes..then four lanes..and now it's a whole "super street" set up, which believe it or not (I know, it's hard to do) is actually better than what it used to be. The development over there and around Stone Oak has exploded in recent years.

    Hell, I remember when the west side of 1604 was actually just a two lane road from I-10 all the way around to 90 . It used to be called the "Death Road", because of the number of fatal accidents. Seemed almost like there was one a day, minimum, for a while.

    You also have to realize, up until the late 90's, there were NO real major interchanges other than where 35 and 37 cross 90. The interchanges that existed were basically like afterthoughts. If you wanted to get off of 281 onto 410 you had to get on San Pedro and wade through light after light.

    Now we have decent interchanges at major junctions, for the most part. 151 is done, but lacks a good interchange at 1604. 1604 is better, but the growth and traffic have overwhelmed it again. 281 north of 1604 is just an unholy clusterfuck of lights, traffic and idiots.

    Definitely an area to avoid unless you absolutely have to go out that way.
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  3. jimmex

    jimmex Guero con moto

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    +1 This is a really crappy place to be on a bike or a car for that matter. Why the hell there is no rail service between Dallas/Austin/San Antonio is beyond me.
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  4. AirforceGSRider244

    AirforceGSRider244 Hardcore adventurer

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    ive been taking I-10 whenever i need to go north here recently. not to bad of a route. still crazy though. i try to stay way away from 281 anywhere in san antonio. there just needs to be less people in san antonio.

    the people here just blow my mind when it comes to stupidity and wrecklessness.
    :kboom
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  5. Heyload

    Heyload Remastered Classic

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    Meh. Still better than driving in Cairo, Egypt.
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  6. AirforceGSRider244

    AirforceGSRider244 Hardcore adventurer

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    you bet it is! i bet its insane in egypt.
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  7. ColdWater

    ColdWater Adventurer

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    This was proposed in the late 70's or early 80's. Don't remember exactly.
    Connect DFW, Houston, S.A., and Austin. Great big triangle.
    Was gonna be true Hi-speed trains.
    The airline lobby killed it.
    Probably construction lobby too.
    Specifically Braniff if I remember right. Think they led the fight.
    It was the last strike of a dying beast.
    And that's why we can't have nice things!

    Steve
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  8. Horizontal

    Horizontal Goatin' Around

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    Unfortunately, the drivers of San Antonio don't sound any different than those in the Bay Area. When I moved there back in '79 I started riding on freeways. Remember, the biggest vehicle back then was Chevy Suburban, or a Toyota Land Cruiser, both of which are tiny compared to modern versions. Plus, no cell phones or TV screens.

    In short, things were civilized.

    No more. Everyone is distracted and in a hurry and could care less about anyone else sharing the road with them — particularly motorcycles. I hate it.

    About Texas, though. One thing that struck me was how unnecessarily high all the access ramps were; I mean, hundred feet in the air for no particular reason. I'm not crazy about heights and didn't appreciate the free tour of the upper atmosphere.:eek1
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  9. Horizontal

    Horizontal Goatin' Around

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    When I said access ramps, I meant the transitions between the freeways, not the ramps to get on the freeways....
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  10. khager

    khager Long timer

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    If there is a market for it. Let private enterprise build it! If not then don't use my tax dollars for it!
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  11. andruboz

    andruboz Serial overfiller

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    as far as on ramps go, texas used to have tons of hayabusa approved on ramps.

    about 20' long to get to 70mph. great fun on my bandit. but a white knuckle experience in a 55hp geo metro.

    I think they realized nobody 'drives friendly' like they used to, so they made the new ramps longer.
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  12. Horizontal

    Horizontal Goatin' Around

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    I was thinking it had more to do with construction companies using cost-plus bidding practices, but maybe that's just my corporate cynicism coming out. Besides, it's not their length I was talking about, but their height.

    It would be nice if someone were actively trying to address the deterioration of driver decorum out there on the highways by actually doing something about it, particularly as it relates to motorcyclists, but frankly I'm not seeing much of anything in that regard.

    I'd love to be wrong.
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  13. macbethandbanquo

    macbethandbanquo Been here awhile

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    Visiting grand kids in SA this week. Just picked up a new Buick. Son lives off 281 and 1604. Off Evans. I can just hope I can get outta town to go back to Louisiana next week without totaling the car. Can't go out after 2:00!! And. Natives say 281 is better now with all lights and turnarounds
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