Savage LS650 Flat Tracker

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by brian72, Mar 23, 2013.

  1. brian72

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    I do like clip-ons. Only the pegs are factory semi forward. That would be an awkward position. Without modification to the shifter and rear brake and peg position I can't find a more comfortable position for the bars than where they are.
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  2. Newfiebullet

    Newfiebullet Been here awhile

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    I don't know if clip-ons would be the way to go, but I think it might be beter with lower risers, or with just MX bars.

    A set of longer rear shocks would be a big help for sure, and I think I'd trim the front fender a little.

    It looks great though, I really like the new seat you put on it. Is that something you custom made?

    You've got a nice project on the go, and I'm with you, I'm surprised more people aren't doing stuff like that.
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  3. RideFreak

    RideFreak Torque Junkie

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    That riser setup looks iffy for any off road use. I understand you need to compensate for the forward pegs but it's (risers) got to be rock solid when you hit a washout or obsticle on a dirt road. With the minimal travel that bike has, control will be critical first time you bottom it out and it will happen if you ride it off the pavement with any frequency.
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  4. brian72

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    SO far so good with the risers. I have them mounted pretty solid and they are in a rubber mounting so they flex just enough, but don't move beyond that. Really though it's just wide dirt paths for this bike nothing serious. Also just added a front plate.
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  5. brian72

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    The seat is an eBay purchase 1971 cb350. I considered new shocks, but haven't been bottoming out with the stock pair yet so haven't needed to upgrade.

    I hear you about the front fender. I have three sizes and prefered the one that is on it (to each his own).

    Thanks for the kind words though.
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  6. Dirtsampler

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    Very interesting project. Please keep the updates coming.

    Steve
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  7. JerryH

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    If you can handle the riding position, I would definitely go with low bars, I mean really low, like several inches lower, about even with the top of the headlight. The high bars on risers still give it a cruiser look.
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  8. Murphy Slaw

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    Ditto.

    It's very cool. I liked the low risers and straight bar idea, but I have long arms.
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  9. brian72

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    I have since parted with this bike, like so many before it.

    The risers did not fail me on the trail though I do agree that if ridden agressive the bars mounted lower would be better. I really like higher bars so I'm sure that's why I was willing to sacrafice some asthetics for comfort.

    Here is a video walk around, with work done in the description, that should show every angle of homemade mods.

    <IFRAME height=315 src="//www.youtube.com/embed/HcU0OjxIiuI" frameBorder=0 width=560 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>
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  10. mpescatori

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    Hello Brian, this is mpescatori from the SuzukiSavage Forum, I don't know if you've ever visited but we have TONS of useful (and vital!) information dedicated to the Suzuki Savage.

    http://www.suzukisavage.com

    I personally have a 1988 4-speed which, among things, I have converted to chain drive.
    Belt drive is nice and quiet for city riding but if you pick up a pebble on a dirt road the least that can happen is a hole punched right through the belt, or else... the belt may snap in the middle of nowhere...

    Also, with chain drive you can easly fiddle with your final drive ratios, i.e. a 17 tooth front sprocket for road and a 15 tooth for dirt roads.
    I used to do that with my dirt bikes when I was a teenager (I'm 53 now) OEM #14 replaced with #15 for the road and #13 for dirt.
    I even experimented with #12 but #12 4th gear was no better than #15 3rd gear, so riding on the open road was limited to the minimum.

    May I suggest you consider fitting mid-controls in order to have your ankles more or less under your hipjoints when riding seated: this allows for much improved control and maneuverability of the bike on dirt/gravel.

    I sincerely disagree. If you are to do any dirt riding, you will want your handlebars to give you full control of the bike even when standing on the footpegs (which you won't be able to do unless you fit mid- controls).
    Lowering the handlebars with shorter risers will cause you to bend forward, with more and more load on shoulders and wrists rather than hips and feet.
    Less control of the bike.

    I love your tool box - actually looks like an old ammo box, right ?

    Your exhaust ... you can leave it as is unless you plan to/need to ford creeks - only you know that.
    Eventually, a short length of pipe bent 30° or 45° will allow for the "raised exhaust" you need, in 1960's scrambler style.

    Keep us posted ! :ear
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  11. Motomochila

    Motomochila Mad Scientist

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    Just read this for the first time. A few thoughts, if you are really wanting a "flat tracker" look.
    1. Get those bar risers off before you kill yourself, unless you only plan to ride pavement. Dirt will get you into some real trouble with the setup you have.
    2. Its easy to relocate pegs and controls to a standard instead of forward. eBay is your friend and parts for this bike are cheap.
    3. For under $100, you can get a megaphone tail that will give you a better look.
    4. Cut off any excess brackets, and rear pegs to lighten the load.
    5. A better bag would be used "horse" saddlebags, and a lot more safe when you slide her sideways on the dirt roads. $30.00 on eBay.
    6. Eliminate the front headlight for a single LED centered in the lower section of the front number plate. Look at Omar's.com for idea, then buy LED from JC Whitney. You don't need bright, just the same as your stocker.
    7. Carve you seat foam down and re-wrap with same vinyl. Look at flat tracker seats for design ideas.

    Last....get rid of the front fender. No such thing on a flat tracker or a street tracker.
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  12. brian72

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    Thanks for all the advice I was looking for. I'm glad there is someone with as much information, on how my bike should look, out there as you have.:1drink
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