Scala Rider PackTalk....

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by MelissaToBeMe, Feb 11, 2015.

  1. biker128pedal

    biker128pedal Super Lurker

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    I read the quick guide the day the update came out but did not see a video. I’ll have to look again. Hopefully the update and new app are improved. I could not here music from my iPhone using the new app.
  2. eltel62

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    Yep, they just work differently, pushing (clicking) the roller has several functions such as switching off music or switching off the radio now. Working perfectly with my iPhone 6S. You just activate voice control with a noise , e.g hey! It acknowledges then say radio on for example. No need to press a button. That is assuming it is switched on in your Cardo Community settings page.


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  3. biker128pedal

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    Ok. Previously the voice activation did not work well for me. I’d voice my discomfort out load to myself about a driver and the voice activation would take action. I’ve only ridden once with another rider and used the communicator. Worked great me navigating in the back. But when I led up front it was very entertaining for my co-rider in back. :lol3

    I’ll try again and if it work go back and update my posts slamming the update.
  4. dmulk

    dmulk Been here awhile

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    Ok, let me simplify my question: Has anyone here successfully made Parallel Audio Streaming / Mixing between an HFP and an A2DP device work reliably with a Zumo 590/595lm?
    What I want is to hear the music coming from my Zumo's MP3 Media player AND hear audio from my GMRS Radio Bluetooth'd through my SR10 at the same time.
    I can sometimes make this work for a while but if I continue using the radio through the SR10 for a little while, the Music coming from the zumo will begin to stutter and eventually fail to the point that the SR10 becomes the priority device and I can't restart music again until the SR10 breaks connection.

  5. StuartV

    StuartV Motorcyclist

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    I have read a lot of stuff about both Sena and Cardo units lately, trying to decide what to upgrade to.

    I can't remember now whether it was Sena or Cardo, but I do remember reading one report of an issue with one of them where having an open connection for a really long time would eventually cause it to drastically lose quality to the point of not being able to hear any more. The solution was that it needed a firmware update (which was not available). The workaround (from Support of whichever company it was) was simply to close the connection and restart it periodically.

    I wonder if your issue is, essentially, the same one.
  6. dmulk

    dmulk Been here awhile

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    Stuart,

    This sure sounds similar. With the Packtalk, what I've noticed is that if I close the connection to the SR10, most of the time, it will allow me to restart the song I was playing on the Zumo but it never restarts it by itself.

    I'm to the point now that I'm considering using two headsets on my helmet at one time and simply using a couple splitters so I can hear both headsets through one of their speakers. Since both devices I need to hear at the same time also need some level of mic input, I'll also likely need to use either two mics or some sort of splitter for that also.

    If anyone has any working examples for what I'm trying to do I'd love to hear them, I'll also report back what I come up with. =)

    <D>


  7. StuartV

    StuartV Motorcyclist

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    Bleh! That sounds awful!

    I don't know what you're doing, but there isn't anyone I need (or even want) to talk to that badly while I'm riding! If I ride with a group and they all have comms and I don't, it's actually perfectly fine with me. If they really want to talk to me, they can get a setup that will connect to mine.

    I'm more concerned with being able to talk to my passenger or to my riding buddy if I'm just riding with one other person. And that is part of the reason why I have 2 Senas and I just ordered 2 of the PackTalk Bold. If I'm going to do a long ride with another person, I can always add a Sena (or, soon, PackTalk) to their helmet pretty quickly and let them use it for the trip.

    The other reason I like having 2 is that when I'm riding long trips by myself, I can keep one on a charger in my trunk or tailbag or wherever and swap when the one I'm using gets low on battery. That is normally only a concern if I'm doing some kind of Iron Butt ride, but it's still a nice capability to have.
  8. dmulk

    dmulk Been here awhile

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    I also always carry two headsets. I've been using 20s's up until now. If I were only concerned with intercom I would be selling the 20's and going only Packtalk as the DMC bridging and universal BT connectivity works just fine for that....but as mentioned, I ride in a group that leverages HAM radios (which actually work quite well for LD IBA stuff that I do).

    Anyway, I think you are going to like the Packtalk better than the Sena's. In all the hacking I've done over the last week, I am comfortable saying that it's the superior unit.


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  9. GotRainedOn

    GotRainedOn Huh?

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    I have been using the upgraded app for about a month now. Apart from the fact that it looks like it was programmed in the late 80s, it actually works very well due to the large touch surfaces. The quick access deck is also well thought ought. What you cannot do is set up the radio presets, as far as I can see.

    I am probably going to downgrade again anyway, because you cannot initiate phone calls completely hands-free anymore, which is something I used a lot. Also, one of my bigger gripes, the coarse notching of volume levels, has not been improved.
  10. HAL 9000

    HAL 9000 2004 Yamaha FJR1300

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    In the app, long press on a radio preset and you’ll see the pencil icon to change the station preset v


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  11. yoohah

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    Somehow it does not save the higher frequencies. I can autotune the radiostation which have e.g. 106.5 MHz, but I can`t store this number to preset. It says ”invalid number” or something.
  12. HAL 9000

    HAL 9000 2004 Yamaha FJR1300

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    Interesting bug... I see what you mean. It looks like the problem is that it needs the decimal point, but if you delete the decimal it doesn’t give you a keypad with a decimal to add it back.

    A workaround I found is to NOT delete the decimal from the previous entry. Edit the numbers on the left of the decimal and then move the cursor to the right side and edit the last digit.

    Or, another workaround is to type “106.5” in to another app, copy it to the clipboard, then paste it into Cardo Connect in the radio station setting.


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  13. TIGERRIDER007

    TIGERRIDER007 North GA RAT

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    So, after reading through the pages, I'm torn.

    I have a Sena smh10 that is going to be replaced. I've never had any issues with it. It seems there are two models to consider for the mesh technology. I ride in large groups and my buddies have Sena.
    Are folks going with the cardo because of the waterproof aspect and/or customer service?

    Has anyone had both of these, can you comment on which is better for group riding?
  14. HAL 9000

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    I went with Cardo, but I've been paying attention to the many discussions of Cardo vs Sena. Here's the summary of what I perceived:

    Cardo Pros: Waterproof, mesh networking "just works"
    Cardo Cons: Not as popular (so random riding buddies are less likely to have this), bluetooth is sometimes flaky, customer service sucks

    Sena Pros: More popular (so random riding buddies are more likely to have this)
    Sena Cons: Not waterproof, customer service sucks
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  15. Hot Stuff

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    I just finished a 4-day group ride, and 5 of the riders had Sena SHM30s (i believe that is the newest model). They fiddled with them for about 20 minutes and got them paired. the next day they didn't work anymore and they had to fiddle again, finally giving up. My Packtalk has been mostly set-it-and-forget-it, but admittedly only my wife and I use them, because everyone else I know has Sena. But why buy something that just doesn't work?
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  16. BowtieNut

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    None of my normal riding buddies had helmet coms until last summer. Luckily I was able to talk them all into going with the Cardo Packtalk. So far they've been great and just work. We have anywhere from 4-6 people connected for most rides. None of us have updated yet this year though with the new firmware etc.
  17. draco_1967

    draco_1967 Spoon!

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    Any time my buddies and I (or any partial combination of us) get together, all we have to do is turn on the headsets and they automatically connect via DMC (as long as the headset is in DMC mode). I don't know how the 30k compares when in Mesh mode. We switched to Cardo because the 20s was terrible when connecting to 3 or more people. The group would be randomly split up, individuals couldn't connect to the group, we would have to pay attention to what order we connected so we would know what order to ride in...it was a PITA. Also being water proof is great. We only ever had one issue with water on one guys headset. He was using headphones, and water got in the headphone jack. Once the unit dried out, it was fine.
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  18. TriTi

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    I know the Sena isn't waterproof... But it is marketed as Water Resistant.

    That is really the only sizeable con...

    Has anybody on here had any issues with their 30K's in the rain? Or is their water resistance plenty to combat a heavy rainshower?

  19. StuartV

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    I think the Senas are sort of luck of the draw.

    I've ridden in rain with my SMH10 units and never had a lick of trouble. Others have had... different experiences than mine.
  20. TriTi

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    Yeah, I've had my SMH10 for probably going on 6-7 years now and have ridden through plenty over heavy storms that not much of me made it through dry and the Sena had never skipped a beat.