Scala rider with earplugs??

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  1. mx125

    mx125 Knob from Canada

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    I was looking at the new scala rider but wonder if anyone has used it with earplugs. I use Er6's when listening to music/books . . but never ride plugless.

    I'm assuming helmet speakers will not work for me . . . but thought I'd ask.
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  2. FrankS

    FrankS ...please wait...

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    They sure didn’t work for me so I cut them off and installed a 3.5mm jack instead, now I plug in my ER6i’s right into the Scala Rider.
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  3. rdsmith3

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    I use the original scala rider, with small speaker in helmet, with Etymotic ear buds. I have the volume turned up all the way on the scala, and I can hear phone calls in my helmet at up to about 70 mph.
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  4. mx125

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    That's interesting. So you use the Etymotics for music, and let the speakers take only the phone call duties? So, I'm guessing you don't find the sound quility of the speakers good enough.

    And FrankS . . . you simply cut the speaker wire and soldered on a minijack?
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  5. rdsmith3

    rdsmith3 Long timer

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    I don't think the Zumo will transmit XM or mp3 over bluetooth, and if it does, it is mono. So, yes, I prefer the etymotics for better sound quality and also to block out wind noise.
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  6. FrankS

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    It will do mp3 via BT but not XM … and yes, it is mono and the quality isn’t great.

    Yes. Although I’m now doing some fine- tuning since the original speakers were 0.5W / 8Ohms and the Etys are 16Ohms, it sounds a bit distorted but still better than the stock speakers with earplugs.
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  7. Falp

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    +2 here, my passenger and I have the penny tech audio system (belkin rockstar connecting radar detector, ipod nano, and her and I's Skull candy ear buds) and we both have the Scala Rider (Teamset). I have the BT headset paired with my Zumo, paired to my Q, which when I get a call I can hear clearly over any audio playing, and can grab the phone and hear the caller while I am in process of pausing the playback.

    My friends think I'm crazy, but it works pretty well for passenger and myself to get 'full functionality' while on the bike.
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  10. Zombie73

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    Motorola now makes a Bluetooth device I have been waiting for. You plug any pair of 3.5mm headphones into it then pair it up to listen to the other bt device. Sounded pretty cool to me. I've got some BigEars I would like to utilize with the Scala teamset I just purchased, and listen to my bt streamed iPod. That, or figure out how Frank did that mod!
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    You don't say? :lol3
    Guess that makes at least 2 of us waiting for it.
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    Didn't realize it was the same company associated with q-jays...then that should be a decent product from what I read.

    I'll still wait for the Moto unit :D
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  14. Josephvman

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    I thought I'd heard somewhere that Cardo was coming out with a Scala Rider that had an additional input and also a 3.5mm earphone jack so you could use different earphones. Anyone know anything about this?

    Also, I found a thread on another message board about modifying the Scala Rider for use with other earphones. This guy opened the unit and unsoldered the Scala earphone leads at the circuit board, and soldered in a 3.5mm jack. I've been debating cutting off the Scala earphones and splicing my Etymotic's, but I think I might try what he did and solder a jack directly to the board. On this message board thread there's also discussion of putting a "Y" jack and inputing another source (ipod) into the Scala Rider. This would be a great solution, if the Y-jack would automatically switch to the input with a signal.

    Here's the thread:

    http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=43452&pid=524813&st=0&#entry524813
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  15. Jaynen

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    So is the main problem that the default scala rider stuff doesnt give you the sound quality needed to handle calls and communication or it doesn't let you also listen to your ipod etc for which most of you wear earbuds to do?

    These for lack of a better term "blue tooth bridging" devices are to let the scala rider and the ipod use the same set of earbuds? What about the micing for the phone stuff?
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  16. azari

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    The wife and I use the Scala Rider Q2 for bike to bike communication, using the provided earphones and microphone in our helmets. I also pair my phone to it when I feel like it, and that works fine too. I don't like to listen to music while riding (find it too distracting) so I use 'regular' earplugs, MotoSafe (http://earplugstore.stores.yahoo.net/almonasomoea.html) with the 'yellow' filter. This setup works fine for the wife and me...
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  17. Josephvman

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    My biggest reason for wanting to use earplugs with the Scala Rider is that you simply can't hear the Scala speakers if you're wearing any kind of ear protection. An in-the-ear earphone like the Etymotic ER6i greatly reduces ambient noise even with no signal present, almost to the same level as wearing earplugs, so you've got some hearing protection as well as better sound when running music, navigation, or intercom. After four hours on the Ducati Sunday my ears were ringing for at least an hour after I got home, and that's not a good thing. I'm a music lover and quasi-musician, and I don't want to abuse my ears anymore than I have to.

    I'll have to look into some sort of bluetooth bridging device. The Zumo would be just about perfect if it had an input that it could output via Bluetooth. I'm not using XM with mine, but the fact that it can't output the XM signal via Bluetooth seems like a serious design flaw.

    Of course, while we're making our wish list, stereo Bluetooth would be nice!
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  18. Jaynen

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    Well I am in the research phase for bluetooth communicators because I would like bike to bike comms as a possibility when riding with my wife and also for the phone as a possibility. I have not used earplugs yet while riding I guess I have not noticed the noise (I have never worn them when riding offroad either)

    I guess it improves concentration but also lowers situational awareness to some extent doesnt it? Music would be nice if I start a regular commute also but I don't want to put myself in a position of complacency
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  19. Hookapelli

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    I know this thread's been dead a while- but I just went ahead and cut the speaker wired and sliced in a female jack for ear-buds.

    Seems this company is providing the service if you don't have the talent.
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  20. charliesdaemon

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    I had the same problem with my G4 and Shoei helmet. I resolved it by moving the speaker closer to my ear (while wearing ear plugs). I accomplished this with some soft foam padding (at various thickness) and some velcro adhesive strips cut to size. I was able to test various distances and found what works for me. I very much enjoy being able to talk on the phone, listen to music while riding.
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