Scenic - iPhone & iPad App Alternative to Garmin Zumo and TomTom Rider

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  1. gve

    gve Guido

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    Hi guys, wanted to let you know that on Thursday (July 21st 2016) my new app Scenic is launching and if you have any questions or feedback about it just post a reply here.

    The unique thing about Scenic is that it can turn any GPX into a navigable route. Even routes or tracks with thousands of via points are no problem. Next to that it offers Turn-by-turn and Voice navigation, Offline Maps, Route Creation, Ride Tracking and much much more. See below for more details.

    Special thanks to the 300+ beta testers from all over the world who were testing it for the past 4 months. Scenic improved tremendously because of all your feedback, bug reports and suggestions! I was overwhelmed by your enthusiasm and involvement!

    App Store Link: https://itunes.apple.com/app/id1089668246 (doesn't work until thursday)
    Website link: http://www.motomappers.com

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    App Store Description
    Scenic is the best motorcycle navigation app out there at the moment. It's the app alternative to, and in some ways better than expensive motorcycle GPS units like the Garmin Zumo and TomTom Rider. Plan, navigate and document your Motorcycle Trips with ease and enjoy the Scenery and the freedom of the road more. No more time waisted on finding, editing, converting and transferring Scenic Routes to your GPS device. Why carry around an extra and expensive GPS unit while your phone can do it all?

    Scenic is especially designed for motorcycle touring, which also makes it very useful for car touring and bicyclists who enjoy Scenic Routes. Mainstream navigation apps just don't cut it for Scenic touring. We want to create our own routes or import them from GPX and then navigate them with turn by turn and voice instructions; We want to avoid highways and city traffic; We want fully documented records of our riding adventures; We want to know the Scenic Routes in an area. Scenic does it all... and more...

    List of Features:
    - Turn by Turn and Voice Navigation
    - Import any GPX Route or Track and turn it into a navigable route
    - Offline Maps
    - Create routes from scratch by dropping upto 100 via points
    - Turn a trip into a navigable route
    - Export trips and routes to GPX
    - Scenic Route Database
    - Trip Tracker & Recorder
    - Use Scenic on all your devices. Your information is synced.
    - Multiple Map- and User Interface colour schemes to choose from.
    - Trip sharing on your favourite Social Channels

    PLANNING:
    With Scenic you can browse for a Scenic Route in your neighbourhood (or anywhere else). Look at the reviews and ratings and if you like it, start Turn by Turn and Voice Navigation. Can't find a route you like?... import one from GPX! Scenic's very own 'Scenify' algorithm converts any GPX route or track into a navigable route, with Turn by Turn and Voice Guidance. Don't have a GPX file?... simply create a route yourself in minutes by dropping upto 100 pins as via points.

    NAVIGATING:
    Scenic guides you along your route with full Turn by Turn and Voice Guidance. There are many options and settings to configure the navigation just the way you like it. For example: Auto Zoom Sensitivity, 3D/2D map, Orientation Lock mode (for those that like the sharp turns), NorthUp/HeadingUp, Speeding Alerts, Power Saver and many more useful features.

    DOCUMENTING:
    Save those Road Trip Memories with Scenic! While you ride or drive your trip is being recorded... take pictures and add comments along the way. Save where you were, what you've seen, how fast you were going and much more. Even if you're not navigating a route you can still record your trip. Wanna ride that same trip again? Turn the trip into a navigable route!

    Ride Safe and Enjoy the Ride!
    Guido
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  2. slomo

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    Sounds awesome, has features I've been looking for that are lacking in other apps I have tried:
    Easy creation of routes
    Turn by turn navigation from an imported gpx file

    Look forward to trying it out Thursday!
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  3. Jollyrogers

    Jollyrogers Been here awhile

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    pricing schema? I am looking for something to use my iPhone in place of dedicated GPS in my second bike. I'll check it out when it becomes available. I need offline maps for national forest use.
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  4. highlight

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    Nice. Can't wait before launch. couple questions

    1. will it auto adapt screen resolution on ipad?
    2. You said that I can have the map screen always on and I just like to confirm that I can still have my map always on (phone won't shut or dim its screen) even 1) without navigation or routes 2)following where I am (auto center by the phone location)

    Thanks Guido.
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  5. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    So what's the subscription cost for the premium version? Can you use open source off line maps with your app?
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  6. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    that intro video- dayum! nice!

    guess it's finally time to get an iPhone and try this out:-)
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  7. slomo

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    What does 'efficient route' mean? And how is it diff from 'fastest' vs 'short' route options?
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  8. rally roo

    rally roo Total poser

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    Just downloaded the app for iOS! Too bad my battery is at 8% or I'd play around with it on the ride from work...
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  9. psliddy

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    I just downloaded the app on the iPad. It is pretty intuitive. The tool tips are nice (helped me figure out how to make a route).

    My first impression after playing a bit (maybe 15 minutes) is that this app has everything I would want (offline maps, route creation, tracking). I haven't tried tracking but I will today in the car. I think it's a great app. Keep in my only experience is with dedicated GPSs and the desktop version of Delorme Topo USA. I haven't played around with anything on the iPhone (except for Google Maps).

    You should make a chart on the website with columns "Free", "Premium", "Subscription", "Pay as you go" (or whatever the particular spending options are) and rows corresponding to the features. You can use check marks to indicate which features are included with the various spending options. I think this would help clarify things a bit more.

    You also include a description on the website of where things are stored (online vs. offline) for those who care about where information is. It also would help in terms of planning for those who ride in areas without mobile connectivity (e.g., will my routes be available if I have no data coverage?).

    I anticipate buying this app. I am definitely going to recommend that my riding buddies check it out.

    You have created a nice app.
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  10. Jollyrogers

    Jollyrogers Been here awhile

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    Downloaded and attempted to import the GPX I am using for a trip right now. I can't unless I pay, so I cannot test things out for the way I would use. I want to be positive and give you constructive feedback, so I would recommend allowing users to save a few routes to test things out. In the meantime, I won't be using. Another app that I am using works, can import/save GPX, and charges for offline mapping. I don't like the user interface much though.
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  11. psliddy

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    Guido - I have been playing around with the app looking at areas I frequent (West Virginia and Maryland). There is a major road through Canaan Valley, WV (WV-32) that is missing from Scenic, but is in OSM. It's the only major road between Davis, WV and Harman, WV. I haven't changed any settings in Scenic, so I am at a loss.
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  12. TonyKZ1

    TonyKZ1 Been here awhile

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    I've installed it on my iPhone and after launching, it keeps asking to allow it to access my location, but won't accept allow or deny either. I cycled power on it since I couldn't quit the program. I'll check it again later. Hmm odd, seems to working fine now.
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  13. Albie

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    I can tell you one thing, if you don't start responding to people here on YOUR vendor thread, you won't have much luck with your product here on ADV.
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  14. gve

    gve Guido

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    Hi Guys. Sorry about my late reply here. Somehow I wasn't being notified of new posts. I'll try to answer your questions one by one.
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  15. gve

    gve Guido

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    Pricing scheme:
    Scenic is free to download, but requires a premium (non auto renewable) subscription which you need for Voice Guidance, GPX Import and GPX Export. A subscription is $0.99 per month or $8.99 per year. To download Offline Maps you need credits. For example California is 3 credits and Illinois 2. Credits can be bought in bulk:
    - 1 Credit —> $0.99
    - 5 Credits —> $2.99
    - 10 Credits —> $4.99
    - 50 Credits —> $9.99
    - 100 Credits —> $17.99
    Once you download an Offline Map you get free lifetime updates for it and you can download it again or on other devices for free as well.
    All in all a pretty good deal. Even if you want to buy a mount and case for you device it’s still a lot cheaper than the Garmins and the TomToms out there.
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  16. gve

    gve Guido

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    Auto-Adapt screen resolution: Yes. Scenic has been designed universally. It will run on any iPhone and iPad capable of running iOS9, in native resolution (so no blowing up of the screen to reach resolution.

    No shut down or dim: Correct. During a trip the screen will not dim/shut down. There is one exception. There is a power saver mode in Scenic (you can turn it off in settings). If the next guidance instruction is far away, screen brightness is reduced to 10% to save battery. When the next guidance instruction gets close, or when deviating from your route, or when tapping the screen, normal brightness is resumed. So, power saver only works when you're navigating a route or to a destination.
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  17. gve

    gve Guido

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    Subscription costs: See 2 posts up
    Open source offline maps: Scenic uses the skobbler framework, which uses Scout maps, which is based on OSM. You can't use other maps with Scenic than the one provided.
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  18. juno

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    Has anyone tried this with off paved raod tracks yet?
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  19. gve

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    Mostly, efficient is a mix between short and fast. It tries to get you there as soon as possible, the shortest way possible. Mostly this should end up in a route that’s not as fast as the fastest and not as short as the shortest. But, once again, it really depends on the area.

    I've had feedback that on some occasions the fast, short and efficient are all the same, but calculated duration for efficient is different. Asked Skobbler about this and here's there answer. The short and fast routing use purely OSM data to calculated duration. With the efficient routing they also throw some of their own data in the mix.
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  20. gve

    gve Guido

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    For the pricing details see my answer a couple of posts up.

    Scenic can be used entirely offline. The only things you can't do while not connected is the following:
    • Create or change your profile
    • Check the rankings
    • Find scenic routes
    • location search
    All the other info (your favorite routes, your trips, creating a route, your profile, etc.) can be asked while you're not connected.. and if you have an offline map installed for the area you can navigate in no coverage areas too.
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