School Me on K1200R

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Rhino-1, Jul 28, 2012.

  1. Rhino-1

    Rhino-1 Been here awhile

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    Considering a possible trade deal. Pros? Cons? Durability? I've always been curious; and while I've owned oil head boxers, I've never owned an inline BMW (bike...).
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  2. jdiaz

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    It has the usual issues......occasional final drive issues, some bikes had weird idling issues in super hot weather, and it might be the worst shifting bike I've ever owned. Long term durability is a question mark, because they just didn't make this model for long.

    There are some discussions of late regarding the camchain tensioner and chain set up. You want to make sure the bike you are trading for has the newest tensioner on the upper right hand side of the engine.....it should look like a black pill bottle sticking out of the engine, and not just a silver plate. That tensioner is a $125 part by itself.

    I have the GT model, and am impressed with the handling and excellent heat management. The strength of the engine is impressive as well......flexible and pulls hard. I imagine the R version is even quicker and better handling.
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  3. Rhino-1

    Rhino-1 Been here awhile

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    Thanks so much for the info. How would you compare the handling to, say, an R1100S? I know the wheel base is longer, but it seems that most seem to do just fine with them in the twisties. What about valve adjustment and such? Any undue headaches or quirks?
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  4. UncleBuck

    UncleBuck F'n n00b

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    The K1200R is a phenomenal bike. Plenty of power, adequate handling in the twisty's and plenty comfortable for all/multi-day rides.

    I bought my 2006 (new) for 12500 and change out the door in 2008. Local dealer had 3 new ones on the floor when I bought it. They have a few quirks/issues but in the time I had mine it was somewhat reliable. I had the cam chain tensioner replace at @ 6500 miles. Brake rotor recall was completed prior to purchase. Low speed/low rpm throttle issues have been reported by some, but notit all. I had problems with mine with the stock exhaust/map, but after a power commander and aftermarket exhaust (with dynojet tune) I had no complaints. My front brake were noisier than shit, I swapped pads, resurfaced rotors and tried adding brake pad shims but was never able to get rid of the singing brakes. At the 12000 mile mark I started experiencing issues with the transmission popping out of 2nd gear under acceleration. The dealership was able to replicate it, but said that it was nothing to be concerned about. To quote the service manager, it isn't a sportbike, it wasn't designed to be ridden like one. The only other dealership in the area could not duplicate the problem therefore were of little help.

    After 17000 miles I had reached my limit. Maybe it was the 8 months of riding, then sitting for a year while I was in Afghanistan, but in Dec. 2010 I traded the the bike in for a 2008 Multistrada. Granted I paid the dealership for the majority of the service on the BMW, the ease of maintenance on the 2v Duc has won me over. A few oil changes, two valve checks and one pair of belts and I am only out a few hours of my time and less money than the cost of the abs and final drive service on the BMW.

    Loved riding the BMW, just hated owning it.

    YMMV, as there are some who have had nothing but miles of smiles on the 1200, but for me it was less than desireable. Check out K-Bikes.com. Lots of good information and good people.
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  5. jdiaz

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    I never thought the R1100S was as nice a bike as my 98 K1200RS, so I'm probably the wrong guy to ask.

    Still haven't had to look at the valves on mine (the check is coming up in another 3k miles), but it looks like an involved job to get everything taken apart.
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  6. tundra61

    tundra61 I wish I had a title

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    I currently have one and love it. Have had it for 3 years now and not a single problem. In fact, it has been the most versatile, most flexible, fastest, coolest and most unique bike I have had.


    Given that it's a naked bike it's not as good as my k-gt was for long highway rides - and given that it's an inline 4 it's not as good as the R-GS was at putting around town but I think it has a permanent spot in my garage !

    Let me know what specific questions you have.
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  7. madisonreid

    madisonreid Long timer

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    Nice bike.....
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  8. Rhino-1

    Rhino-1 Been here awhile

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    Tundra, how does it feel through the twisty stuff? Commuting? How many miles are on yours?
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  9. tundra61

    tundra61 I wish I had a title

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    I have about 8k miles currently - which I understand is modest compared to what many might have on a bike this old.

    About handling, it certainly doesn't handle like 600cc sport bike but feel it does very well in twisties recognizing it is not a full on sport bike. The little you might give up in the twists you more than make up on in the bikes straight line speed and stability.

    I don't commute on it as I work in NYC but it would seem like a perfect daily commuter - especially with the bags.

    Extras I have on mine are bar risers, peg lowering, BMW bags and Corbin seat. A few other cosmetics but those are the ergo additions.
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  10. mepilot

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    I have been looking into the k bikes a lot the last two weeks, and test rode a k1300s and r1200r last weekend. Everything I have been seeing says pay attention to the year. 05-06 needs remaps and exhaust which someone alluded to earlier. I am sticking with 07-08's. Also the guy that mentioned the transmission problem, this is referenced numerous times throughout the forums, most people were having theirs replaced under warranty years back, now its $5000 out of pocket unless BMWNA feels generous. Another reason to stick with the later years, most people agree that they changed or fixed the transmission.

    I agree with what everyone else says about the ride, it is excellent and the power is addicting.
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  11. Harry Backer

    Harry Backer Ran when parked!

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    Great bikes, they still make them and sell them overseas. Have a freind with one and it has been flawless since 2005 when he bought it new.
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  12. scrannel

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    I have an '06 K1200R bought new, loaded and still love the bike. Make sure your recalls have been done. I would add the cam chain "jump guard" just for your head (about an hour or less of work on that bike). Yeah, everywhere expect the Unites States and Antarctica you can get the K1300R.
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  13. Rick Lee

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    The local dealer just got a very well farkled, low-miles '06 K1200R and called me about it yesterday. They want my '08 GS with 53k miles and $2500 for it. I think it should be an even trade. My bike plus $2500 is out of the question. But I've never ridden a K12R, so I'm very curious to go give it a try. Little concerned about the pre-07 transmissions too.
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  14. stripple

    stripple Runnin' Hard

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    I got to take a long test ride in one. I really enjoyed it, and just the other day I was trying to rember why I didn't buy it...

    The thing I rember about it the most, it was properly fast. Like really, really strong. I enjoyed it very much. Handling was pretty good, it felt like a long bike, but it was reasonably nimble and very stable.

    The bike I rode had the Remus can, and the fueling was not quite smooth. But it's glitches kind of worked in its favor if that makes any sense...

    If you get one allow budget for a radar detector, it's fast!!:wink:
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  15. Rick Lee

    Rick Lee Long timer

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    Well, I got it. About to do the paperwork and ride her home. Photos in a bit.
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  16. Rick Lee

    Rick Lee Long timer

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    Well, here she is - total hooligan bike, black everything, professionally painted and powder coated, 6500 miles on her.

    [​IMG]

    First farkles will be HIDs and Euro OEM LED turn signals. I'm getting kind of nervous reading about all these tranny horror stories on these bikes. I might go back to the dealer and get that extended warranty after all.
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  17. Tom-Nor

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    Thers a lot of K1200R/S 05-06 with no issues at all, but ther are those who have had to replace gearbox. The 07 and 08 are suposed to have goten rid of all those isuess.
    But if it would be me, i would have goten the extended warrenty.

    Hers the best K12/1300 forum
    http://www.bmwk1200s.com/forum/index.php
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  18. stripple

    stripple Runnin' Hard

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    Wow. Nice looking machine!!!:clap

    I have always thought that they look great when they are painted like yours has been. There's a guy that has one on Craigslist down there in the Phoenix area with about 100k miles on it. Looks like its not on there anymore, but it's a testament to the bikes longevity.

    I'm sure you're going to enjoy it, especially coming off of a GS! I'm jealous! I'm going to go look at one today.:lol3
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  19. Rick Lee

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    Yes, I know that 100k mile K12R. It belonged to Tylor, GM of Victory BMW in Chandler. He was trying to sell it forever. AFAIK, he never had any mechanical issues with that bike and rode the piss out of it, as evidenced by its mileage.

    I went back and got the extended warranty today. $1300 for two years, unlimited miles, full drivetrain, electronics, the whole schmeer. Not cheap, but now I will not ever worry and that's worth the $$. I see myself keeping this bike for two years and then going with a water-cooled GS, just don't want the first year of a new design. In the meantime, I will not be saving any miles for the next owner of my k-bike.
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  20. stripple

    stripple Runnin' Hard

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    Rick,

    A bunch of my old friends have migrated to the Phoenix area, one after the other. I get down there to visit about 3 times a year. I would happily discuss the purchase of that machine with you when you're ready. I love those in all black like yours.

    I am down there quite a bit and would be quite happy to do a fly and ride on one of my favorite bikes!:wink: Keep me in mind when you're ready. I'm always in the market, I have motorcycle A.D.D. I am constantly buying and selling...

    Congrats again on one hell of a bike!:clap
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