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Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Smoke Eater 3, May 19, 2017.
I think I'm happy to hear that the fit is tighter. I'm a Shoei - Medium and the Schuberth - Medium was always a bit too tight...so maybe going to a Schuberth - Large will work for me. Comparing the size charts on the C3 Pro with the Shoei, I was at the lower end of the Shoei scale and the higher end of the Schuberth scale. (I think I got that right...)
Either way - thanks for the review. Just to clarify, the built-in technology is the antennae, speakers and microphone, right? Is that included with all the helmets - you then added the SC1 Advanced kit?
It wasn't included with the helmet but I figured I needed it anyway. I usually use Bluetooth ear buds under my helmet so this is far, far better.
Very nice post. Where did you order the helmet from? Most places have this item on pre-Order.
Any information would be appreciated.
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After reading the thread on here about MotoUSA through Amazon I bought it through them. They shipped it quickly but it was hung up in customs for a day. I got it about 5 days after ordering.
How is the venting compared to the C3 Pro?
The top vent is quite good. It really flows air over my skull. The chin vent is just ok.
Some european shops like Champion Helmets and FC Moto have some sizes (and graphics) in stock. Ordered a c3 pro from them before, they are really good. Helmet arrived in 1 week time, paid $0 import fees. You have to a bit lucky with the size. Best is to send an email and ask before you order.
The Schuberth C4 Pulse looks great. Nice to read an actual review. Thanks for sharing. I am considering the Schuberth C-4 Legacy
Might want to put in a call to your insurance company and check the survival/injury data available from NTSB and others about non-DOT helmets. Your policy may cover a DOT helmet if you break it in a crash but likely will not cover replacing a non-DOT. I'd also make damn sure non-DOT did NOT show up on any police or hospital reports. Dollars to doughnuts your liability insurance and health insurance providers will walk away from your claims if they find out; they look for anything that gives them the right to not pay out.
Enjoy the helmet. My C4 is on the way, I just have to wait for the DOT version to arrive next week at my BMW dealer parts desk. For those who want a C4 you don't have to wait but another week or two to have a US authorized DOT version if you order now.
You do know that its the exact same helmet, right?
You do know that DOT shell is different, right?
I noticed a lot of sneaky shops selling Schuberth online don't even mention that the helmet is not DOT and therefore illegal for use in helmet law states. Condescendingly they are all European sellers. They also don't mention that Schuberth NA will not honor warranty on them.
In summary it's fine if you decided not to wait for USA model and save a hundred bucks in the process, but know what you are giving up.
So Schuberth is making different helmets for every country where they import? I'm asking this condescendingly. That's not exactly a winning business model. Maybe they should produce one shell which conforms to the most safety standards and therefore take advantage of the economies of scale.
That's what I would do, but what do I know. Maybe this way we would not have wait for months while our European brothers are already enjoying new models.
Not necessarily. It may be the very same helmet, but they have to submit it for approval for whatever certification it falls under. In the US, that's the federal DOT.
It also may not be.
There are various references to the DOT American Helmets and ECE rated international helmets having different weights if you look around, its mentioned on the Revzilla SR-1 review that the DOT is a thicker shell and thus 3-4oz heavier the DOT helmet is ECE rated as well, but the ECE is not DOT rated.
Whether or not that carries to the C3 pro/C4 I don't know, I haven't looked into it as I have an S2 and SR-1. (winter and summer)
I have been riding with my Schuberth C4 helmet for about 4000 miles now. While I like the helmet overall there are some major issues that would keep me from buying it again. During my first ride the front chin vent cover fell off. It has taken nearly four weeks for Schuberth to send a replacement. While waiting I have covered the vent with tape on colder days. I have never had a problem with the multiple helmets I have owned over the years so for this to happen with a so called "premium" helmet makes me concerned over the rest of the design. I also ordered the SC1 communications module. I just finished a 2500+ mile ride through Canada with two other riders who both had Sena headsets. Neither of them could understand what I was saying clearly but they both could hear each other just fine. I noticed that I am not the only one with this problem while doing some research. I contacted both Schuberth and Sena directly over a week ago and have not heard anything back. Not the best of customer service. The fit and finish of the helmet is at the same level of the Shoei and Arai helmets I have owned, no better but also no worse. The helmet is quieter than a lot of my other helmets. They place the built in speakers very close to your ears which I believe attributes to the quietness, but the speakers do press upon my ears and become quite uncomfortable after a long day. I regret purchasing this helmet, I fell for the "Schuberth Mystique" and marketing. It is very over priced. If you do decide to purchase, try to secure the chin vent with some 3M double sided tape to keep it attached. Also do not order the SC1 module until they work out the issues. Let me know if you have any questions.
You can adjust the placement of the speakers...I just watched the Revzilla breakdown video this weekend and its a bit involved, but completely possible. Maybe that would help alleviate some pressure points.
I've only owned Shoei and Arai and looking at the helmets in the showroom, the Schuberth seemed to be a notch above when it comes to fit and finish and the feel of the interior materials. I wouldn't say they are leaps and bounds over the Shoei / Arai, but a notch above. Can't imagine this would have changed for the C4...I have yet to see one in person, so I'm hoping they haven't gotten cheaper. From the video review, they were very positive on the materials and construction and said it was in fact a step above the C3Pro due to a more rigid shell design, etc.
The whole integrated antenna and speakers is a fantastic move on their part, IMO. Too bad the audio quality seems to have an issue. I wonder if its the placement of their microphones up in the brow. Please let us know if they do anything to rectify the situation. I have a Sena on my Shoei and have been very impressed with their customer service as well as the fact that they do firmware updates to fix bugs and add features...and its done somewhat regularly. That's a good thing...a lot of times the mfg will make updates but make you buy the next model. I'd happily buy a Sena product again...so hopefully there is a fix to the problem.
What type of bike are you riding? You behind a windshield or on a naked?
The "push-open, push-close" style chin vent is really cool, but seemed like it could be a weak point from what was said on the Revzilla video. Sorry to hear you're having troubles already and that it wasn't a good purchase.
I purchased from fc-moto. I'm coming from the old c3. And I'm pretty happy right now. Air flow is a big improvement. And it feels light the the 3. They improved the visibility so you nolong see the pinlock lense. I've had no issues with speakers touching my ears. There's no issue registering with schuberth online
That's great to hear - ours are on their way from Chromeburner.
Do you have the SC1 fitted?
The C4's SC1 unit is rather annoying to use since it's difficult to find the buttons with a glove because they are kindof tucked away. With something like the Sena 20S you have a jog-wheel, a large button and also a phone button on the back - all easily pressed with a thick glove. The SC1 only has two very small buttons + and - so things like skipping tracks, starting intercom is messy as two buttons only means you have to keep them pressed for X seconds to get to the function you need. A somewhat clumsy system. But not having anything stick out of the helmet is nice I guess.
The placement of the mic is such that if you ride even slowly with the lid open the brow mic will pick up wind and auto activate. Once the helmet is closed it is all good - the mic works well.
All in all - I had an opportunity to try the C4 and did but was happy that I got a C3 Pro instead. Somehow the quality and softness of the liner seem to be worse than C3's. Also, from what I've from a friend who bought it, it is noticably louder than C3/Pro. Also, he reports the visor fogging up even witn the pinlock.
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