Scooter Adventures

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by cabanza, Dec 7, 2017 at 8:47 AM.

  1. cabanza

    cabanza Smooth Operator

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    Or adventures on a scooter?

    They should have gone with the Zuma 125 IMO.

    But it's still fun! It shows you really don't need a big bike to have fun.

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    I saw it yesterday and I like it. Makes me feel less crazy for thiking about doing it. Cool, since it is not your average litter's bike shootout or masive cruiser.

    Nice change !
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  4. cabanza

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    We need more videos like that. It shows scootering is all about fun. Scooters are tougher than people think. May be it would get more people riding.
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  5. cabanza

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    A GROM would also do well IMO. I think there was an article in motorcyclist a couple of years ago about taking GROMs on trails.
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  6. klaviator

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    That looked like a lot of fun.
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  7. chazbird

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    Cool video. I ride some those same areas on a BV-250....its ok for for the less than rough stuff, but otherwise too heavy, bulky, too much plastics. The effects of road gradients, altitude and heat is noticeable on a 250. I agree, I'd like to do what they do on a (used) Zuma 125.
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  8. pnw

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    So last May when I was downtown to turn in my badge, phone, vpn and stuff at retirement there were no parking spots at the company building. There were at least a half dozen carpool only parking spots, none of them being used. Foolishly I thought I could pop in, return the company stuff and get back out before hords of car poolers arrived. I let security at the front desk know where I parked, they said OK but on the way out I found my car booted. Apparently there was an enforcer who took his job very seriously and lectured me about taking a car pool spot and how they were all so vital to the hords of car poolers. Because he had the key to the boot I didn't bother mentioning that all of the car pool parking spots were still empty except the one that I took.

    Anyway I politely told him that I was only there momentarily to return company equipment because I was retiring so he had some compassion and agreed to take the boot off. He asked me what my plans for retirement so in the interest of polite conversation and getting out of there without having my car towed I mentioned my plan to ride to Alaska on my TW200. After a good guffaw straight from his ample belly he informed me that I was crazy and that a ride to Alaska would require nothing less than a 1200cc bike. I politely agreed that I must be crazy and went on my way. Had a great time in Alaska and if the opportunity presented itself I wouldn't hesitate to take my scooter to Alaska.
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  9. eakins

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    Friend of mine is doing the COBDR on a Zuma 125 this summer.
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  10. JerryH

    JerryH internal combustion rider

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    I would have picked a Honda Trail 90/110 for something like this. Real gears, low gear ratio, and somewhat of a bash plate. And still well under 1000cc. I still think there is a market for an off road scooter. Half the people who live in my state ride/drive off road vehicles, bikes, quads, side by sides, and even $20,000+ buggys. Maybe something along the lines of the Ruckus (no bodywork) with a tad more displacement, very low seat height, fat tubeless tires, a real transmission with pushbutton electric shifting, and a large heavy bash plate that would allow it to literally slide over obstacles without damaging anything. It would also need to be at least semi stepthrough, and street legal from the factory, and the tires would have to be DOT approved for street use.

    While they still ran, my guess is these guys did a lot of damage to the CVTs, and they did have to push the scooters uphill. With real gears, they could have ridden them up, even if it was below 5 mph. And with a real bash plate they would not have had to be concerned about smashing things underneath.
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  11. klaviator

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    No reason they couldn't use a CVT. Most ATVs use them and they are designed for off road and steep hills. My Smax would have have no issues with any of the hills in the videos or even much steeper hills. As long as the air intake for the CVT is properly designed there should be no issues with dust or dirt getting into them. the reason these scooters wouldn't climb the hills is because they had so little power and were geared for the street.

    I think around 150cc would make a perfect off road/adventure scooter. Anything bigger would get much bigger and heavier. How are you going to lift it over the trees you encounter across the trails?
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  12. JerryH

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    I figured around 100cc. With a good solid and smooth skid plate, curved upward at the front, it should be possible to lift one up on a fallen tree and slide it over on the plate, depending on how big the tree was. I had a Honda TRX250ES quad I bought brand new back around 2007 for $4000 OTD. It had a 5 speed transmission that could be shifted with a pushbutton on the handlebars. No clutch or shift lever. Ever since then I've thought that would be great for a small dirt bike or scooter. No worries about dirt, no belt slipping or breaking, and a much wider ratio range. This thing would hit almost 60 mph in top gear, and crawl along over anything at 2 mph in first gear. Even a 50cc bike with a super low first gear will climb anything it can get traction on. It would be super slow, but with the engine being able to spin in it's powerband near readline it would be just about unstoppable. I've climbed huge mountains on a 50cc 2 speed pedal moped, with a super low first gear, with 300 pounds loaded on it. A single speed would not do it. A moped has top be geared to reach 30 mph, and it wouldn't reach over 7-8 mph in first gear before shifting to first gear. Actually, for a 50cc to 70cc sized bike, a 2 speed centrifugally shifted moped type transmission would probably work fine, since these bikes top out between 35-40 mph anyway. 50cc puts out about 2 hp, but that's at full throttle. Geared right, 2 hp should climb anything.
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