Scooter for wife

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by DakarNick, May 24, 2013.

  1. DakarNick

    DakarNick Swabee

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    My wife wants a scooter and I have no idea what to look for. I know nothing about them.

    We want it to be reliable, small enough displacement to park on the sidewalk (I forgot the cut-off), and easy to maintain. She has never ridden any motorized 2-wheeler so this would be new to her.

    Any ideas, tips, pointers?

    Thanks!
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  2. luckychucky

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    No motorcycle indorsement required. Must have license, insurance, and proof of ownership. The Ruckus to me is a great utility scooter. lots of under seat storage and a flat floor board. Has plenty of umph around town.
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  3. CaptnJim

    CaptnJim Scootist

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    Hi Nick,

    You would have to check your local parking ordinances, but if anything is allowed to park on the sidewalks, it is usually the sub-50cc scooters. Avoid the mainland China made products. Honda and Yamaha both make 50cc scooters. Other good brands are Kymco, Genuine, and SYM (all Taiwanese). The Buddy 50 by Genuine is a very popular scooter in that size. There may also be a restriction on horse power and/or top speed for bicycle type parking... all 50cc scooters are not equal.

    Something to keep in mind is that top speed - usually around 30 mph or so for that category of scooter. That may or may not be an issue in her situation.

    We have ridden motorcycles for 45 years and recently switched to scooters; and have found them to be a lot of fun.

    Spend some time looking around this forum and you'll get some interesting insight into the scooter world.

    Best wishes,
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  4. MiniBike

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    Find someone who rents them (tourist areas or college towns) and have her give them a try first. Spend the day riding with her and then follow the advice of the Capt'n. You may just buy 2! :D
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  6. DakarNick

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    Thanks, everyone! Wifey and I are going to go to a couple dealers tomorrow to look around.

    Denver has the 50cc rule/cutoff for no license/plate/sidewalk parking.
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  7. fullmetalscooter

    fullmetalscooter Let me take this duck off

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    Anyway here the list for cycletrader with in 100 of denver .
    http://www.cycletrader.com/New-Or-U...zip=80257&radius=100&sort=price:asc&newsort=1

    $899 2003 Honda CH50 http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2003-Honda-CH50-Metro-110209049

    same but 14000 bucks with 200 miles ; http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2009-Honda-CHF-50-108874220


    2009 SYM JET EURO 50 Scooter 1200 10 miles . 1200 buck but then again they are asking 1400 for a 125


    http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2009-SYM-JET-EURO--50-110203516

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  8. blugg1

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    If there's a SYM dealer in your area, then take a look. They are quite well made. But then so are Kymco and Genuine.
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  9. CaseyJones

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    First: Buy used - while she figures out if it works for her. Once that's known, you can buy new with confidence. Most new scooters lose a lot of value immediately on sale.

    Second: Before recommending a size, you need to know where and how far she'll be riding. Trips around the neighborhood? 49cc is fine. To work and back? Denver traffic is unforgiving; she'll need a 250cc or larger. A 49cc will top out at under 40 mph (there are some modded exceptions); a 150cc will give the rider up to about 50 mph.

    Freeway or limited-access roadway travel requires at LEAST 300cc and probably more. If she's going to be riding into town on I-25, you want at least a Burgman 400.

    No cycle license? It's a problem; but dodging it by going 49cc is like dodging not having a driver's license by taking a pedal-car to work. It avoids it; but you wind up with something other than what you need.

    A scooter, like a wrench, is a tool (in addition to being a toy). Before you buy a wrench, you have to know what you're going to use it on.
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  10. DakarNick

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    Thank you, everyone, for the help and links.

    Today we went to Sportique Scooters and checked out the Genuine and Kymcos, Erico Motorosports and checked out the Vespa/Piaggios and also a used Honda Sh 150i. We also stopped by RPM Motorsports and checked out a Honda Sh 150i and also a Honda CXP which is pretty cool. I also had to check out, once again, the Can Am Spyders :clap

    We are set on a 125/150 at the very least. It won't be needed for major road use, mostly commuting the mile to work, her Pilates place, and the library. We can use the truck, car, or bike for anything longer.

    Back to Craigslist/Motorcycle trader!
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  11. CaptnJim

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    The Honda PCX are nice scooters - we bought a pair a few months ago for the wife and me. There is a good thread here on the PCX... the older ones are 125s, they came out with the 150 last year. The 150 is "highway legal" in most states. Unless your circumstances are unusual, you can't "park them on the sidewalk," but they are very capable for a small(ish) scooter. Top speed around 65, but you have to have some patience to get to that. Very peppy up to 55 mph. Big plus - it's a Honda.

    Good luck with your decisions.

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  12. cdwise

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    Colorado that would be under 50cc for no m/c license but have her take the MSF course and get a Genuine Buddy. They are all over the place downtown Denver. Extremely reliable but you there is no body style difference between the 50cc, 125cc, 150cc (International paint styles) and the fuel injected 170i. All of which I've seen parked on the sidewalk in Denver. Then again I've also seen a 500cc BV parked on the sidewalk in Denver. What I do not see parked on the sidewalk are big maxis like the Suzuki Burgman. So from my observation if you get a more traditional styled scooter like a Buddy, Yamaha Vino (or even a Zumo), Vespa (any size or vintage), some of the Kymcos (People, Like, Agility but not Xciting), Sym, Aprilia (Sports City or lower cc Scarabeo), Piagigio (Fly, Typhoon) you shouldn't have a problem parking on the sidewalk as long as it is out of the way. Smaller wheeled scooters like the Buddy (really any of the Genuine scoots), Vespa, Yamaha or Honda Met regardless of cc size are highly unlikely to be a problem with sidewalk parking at least in Denver as long as they don't block pedestrians.

    When I take my BV down to Ericos for service I usually get a loaner if it will be more than an hour or two. The loaner has always been a Vespa (though I was once offered a Triumph when they needed to keep it overnight) depending on what I'm doing while the scoot is being serviced it has been either a 50cc ET 2 when I'm staying downtown - going to the bank getting a bite to eat sort of thing or a GTS 250 both of which were plated (probably one of the used scoots for sale) and I parked both of them on the sidewalks downtown, frequently next to other plated scooters. I've never seen an unplated scooter in Breckenridge where we live and the majority of the scoots are 50cc. Frankly, I'd plate the scoot and insure it no matter what the cc. Especially, if you ever want to take it with you to ride in another state (say in the back of that truck.)
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    Related discussion.

    Colorado DMV
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    A friend and his wife both have 50cc Honda Metropolitans. When they tried to register them as mopeds (I believe they are actually 49cc motors) the clerk at the Motor Vehicle Department said very clearly, "If it has pedals then it's a moped and doesn't need a license nor do you need a motorcycle endorsement on your driver's license. If it doesn't have pedals your are out of luck."

    Then again, this is Arizona.
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    I bought a zuma 50 for my wife and ride it more than her.44 mph going downhill
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  17. JerryH

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    Also from AZ. They are correct, only a REAL pedal moped can be registered as a moped here. No pedals makes it a motorcycle, no matter what the displacement.

    Some states allow a 50cc scooter to be registered as a moped, but many also place performance restrictions on it, like max hp and top speed. Most 50cc scooters exceed both. Honda used to make a Metropolitan that met these requirements, it didn't have enough power to get out of it''s own way, and had a top speed of under 30 mph. Some states have a list of scooters that meet their "moped" restrictions, some will register anything under 50cc as a moped, but then give you a ticket if you are caught exceeding their max speed for mopeds, even if you are not otherwise speeding.

    In any event, I see a 50cc scooter as not only pretty worthless but downright dangerous in town. I have owned two, an '05 Zuma and an '07 Metropolitan. Their top speed of around 40 mph may be enough for some situations, but they take forever to reach that speed. A turtle could just about outrun them.



    You might be better off with actual mopeds. You can ride them to the far right, like a bicycle, instead of out in traffic. And if your state does not require pedals like AZ, Tomos makes all their moped models with or without pedals. They have a top speed of 30 mph, but will reach it much faster than a 50cc CVT scooter.

    In AZ the hot ticket is a motorized bicycle. We have a law here that they can be ridden almost anywhere a regular bicycle can be ridden, including bike lanes, as long as you do not exceed 20 mph. They can also be parked at any bike rack. Max displacement is 48cc. No drivers license, registration, or insurance is required. This is what I'm talking about: http://www.spookytoothcycles.com/
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  18. CaseyJones

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    That's good advice. Rather than waste money trying to dodge motorcycle regulation and licensing, the OP and wife really should bite the bullet and take the tests; and get what they really need.

    A snail-speed scoot in traffic is going to be by turns frustrating, frightening and dangerous; and the rider learns little about the benefits/pleasures of motorcycles/roadgoing scooters.

    There is no free ride - not unless one's employer wants to spring for a bus pass. But that's another issue.
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  19. DudeClone

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    good deal imo. i'd trade my wife for a scooter any day

    you haven't seen my wife!


    bada-bing, bada-boom (rim shot) :D
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  20. DakarNick

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    I think my wife wouldn't mind taking the test on a scooter. Bikes intimidate her so once she learned she could actually do the test/course on a scooter she agreed the 125/150 may be better.

    I already have my endorsement and ride a KTM 950 Adventure.
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