Scooter Hooliganism...

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Linzi, Sep 10, 2005.

  1. Linzi

    Linzi Crazy Plott Lady

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    What causes hooliganism amongst normally smart and safe motorcyclists when they hop on their little step-throughs? I've just ridden a bit around town with Mostro, and let me say, he is doing the two-wheeled world no favors when he's out on his new Big Ruckus. :nono

    In other scooter-related news, this morning I learned how a variator works. And that little bit of engineering is pretty damn smart. :thumb

    That is all. :ricky
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  2. Photog

    Photog Charismatic Megafauna Administrator

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    I don't know. But I'm 100x more squidly on the scoot. :uhoh

    I'm super-smooth, safe, and precise on the GS. Fast, but safe. Plenty of cushion around me.

    On the Stella I'm dive-bombing through holes in traffic.

    :scratch

    Good question. :nod I've been wondering about that myself.
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  3. Spode

    Spode Malcontent

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    I think it's spelled V-I-B-R-A-T-O-R, but good onya :thumb :lol3
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  4. ilmostro

    ilmostro Under Da Sea

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    I tried the JTM variator mod this morning. Pull 3 weights from the variator.

    :nah

    It has better pick up from 0-40 but from then on it suffers and top end is down by about 7mph.

    Thankfully it's not like the Aprilia and only took me 15 minutes to strip it and put the weights back in.

    :ricky
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  5. Photog

    Photog Charismatic Megafauna Administrator

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    Can you change the final gearing on the Ruckus? :ear

    What do you need/want on the Ruckus--midrange or top end?

    I'm just curious--my intown riding on the Stella calls for midrange. I'm finding I'm cool with being able to cruise at 50-55 with city traffic, well within its top speed of 65-70...but I like having a nice fat handful of go-fast available at 50 in 4th gear should I need to dodge a cage.
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  6. wegger

    wegger Hey watch this...

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    Ditto.
    On my little Aprilia 50/70, I'm a psychopathic threader of traffic needles, a neighborhood WFO screamer, occasionally bust a move through a parking lot or filtering to the front of the line. I'm invisible and invincible.

    On my GS, I'm fast and as smooth as possible, but still occasionally pulling a nasty. I wave to children and old ladies. I'm the model AMA spokesperson and credit to the sport.

    On the KTM 525 Motard, I'm just a fucking moron, a wheelie waiting to happen, a license begging to be lost, fuckem-take-no-prisoners traffic menace.
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  7. GaelicDog

    GaelicDog Lesser of Two Weasels

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    The biggest dumb assed thing I have done so far was last Sunday. Running down a long, straight residential road behind a moving van/tractor at 20 miles per hour.

    I never flinched and up on the sidewalk I went, passed 'em and out into fresh air. NEVER thought about it, NEVER hesitated. Hit the pavement and I was like WTF did I just do??????????????
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  8. Photog

    Photog Charismatic Megafauna Administrator

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    :lol3 Good description.

    Same here.

    You can even put me on a sportbike and I'm reasonably sane.

    But a motard or a scoot...and I'm a total nutcase. I don't have a motard because I KNOW I'd be in jail. Immediately.

    What gives?
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  9. Photog

    Photog Charismatic Megafauna Administrator

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    YUP!

    OMG, I'm soooooooooooooooo glad it's not just me. :oscar
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  10. GaelicDog

    GaelicDog Lesser of Two Weasels

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    Oh, and trust me, the LIST IS GROWING! I do something stupid daily!
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  11. Marc

    Marc Just sayin...

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    Tire-smoking torque combined with a 16,000 RPM redline. I wanna be able to put a 1/4 mile long tire-shaped rut on an asphalt surface with a mere twist of my right wrist.

    Sound like a plan? :ear
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  12. wegger

    wegger Hey watch this...

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    LOL! Me too! When I'm on the scooter, I guess my subconscious thinks I'm in Italy. I was threading through traffic the other day and with no thought, just started to pass two cars down the middle... Did the exact same thing... "WTF was I just doing?".
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  13. GaelicDog

    GaelicDog Lesser of Two Weasels

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    A water cooled 250 has potential. It's just so new and there are not many of them out there yet, so performance stuff is not really available here. Mine seems to pretty good all around. BUT, as my dad says I am NEVER happy with anything, I would just like a little more out of it overall. And if I cannot get another MPH out of it, or get there any quicker, I'll still be happy with it.
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  14. Spode

    Spode Malcontent

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    [​IMG]
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  15. Linzi

    Linzi Crazy Plott Lady

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    Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure...

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    :lol3
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  16. ilmostro

    ilmostro Under Da Sea

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    Big Ruckus

    I don't know if the final drive can be changed or not. There may be different combos available out there from a different model that may work (CH, Helix, Foresight)

    I would like a little more everywhere actually. Like GD said, If I couldn't find any more than it already has I would still be happy with it. The biggest thing that I want to remedy is the off-idle lean spot. When you first take off there is a lag that really stinks. I had a quick looky-loo at the carb but decided to leave it alone until I can learn more.

    I think locating the pilot screw and turning it out a little would be a start. Then look at chimming the needle a little then a bigger main, drill the slide and play with the slow jet. Once there I think pulling the snorkel out of the air box may find a little more umph.

    I'll wait to see if the aftermarket jumps in with a variator and clutch spring. I think there is a little bottom/mid to be found there with out sacrificing top end. Remus and Moriwaki have exhausts in Japan. I emailed Knut at Max Moto and he believes he can get the Remus, but it will be pricey. I did find someone that could get me the Moriwaki but it would be $460 :eek1

    The cams are externally adjustable so maybe do something there. Who knows? :dunno I'm having a serious blast on it as-is :lol3


    The Ruckus needs some more power to ride safely around here. I was going to get Diaz to find a price on the tasty Polini kit for me in Italy but I guess the bikes there are FI and the stuff wouldn't work here.

    I may go for the intake and exhaust kits and a variator from Battlescooter and see how that goes. I'll need some $$ first. Anyone wanna buy a Vento? :ear
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  17. Photog

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    On the Super 9's one of the first things on the list before doing any serious mods was to vent the variator to keep it cool, and get rid of the stock airbox and go to a homemade K&N conversion (the little breathers work well as filters on the little motors) or Arreche "porcupine". Probably a similar thing for the Big Ruck--rejet, get more air in, keep the variator cool--just tweaking stock settings and helping it out so that the variator doesn't get hot and fussy. But, of course, everything else follows and is interelated--more air into the carb means getting it through the heads and out the exhaust. Ka-ching.

    But that's the allure. :evil

    Over here in 2T land, I'm having to learn the art and science of jetting a kit. I've got a larger carb on mine (Dellorto 24G) and I'm having to work my way back up from a lean setting that's threatening to hole the piston. :umph Waiting on jets from Scomo but I'm able to ride around town--just can't open it up completely or I'll melt it into expensive Italian slag. Sure is tempting, though--I'm having to shift right when it really begins to fly. It hits the pipe and it feels like I've hit the NOS button. :lol3 The little needle starts tearing around the speedo and the front end comes up. Wheeeee!

    I better learn how to handle a wheelie. :uhoh
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  18. ilmostro

    ilmostro Under Da Sea

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    Don't take any scooter wheelie advice from me. :kurt
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  19. frewhl

    frewhl daily rider

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    "that's what motorcycles are made for"so said my friend in college who i am sure played an intragal part in getting me intrested commuting and touring on motorcycles.

    we were doing scooter antics on a fj1200 and a vmax

    now mtn bikes were getting popular,i followed my cousin to class.
    driving through parked cars in the lot.
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  20. Photog

    Photog Charismatic Megafauna Administrator

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    I've had bicycles with fatter tires than this thing. :uhoh

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    There's a wide-tire conversion kit from SIP.

    Saaaaaayyyyy...you DO know about SIP, don't you? :evil

    http://www.sip-scootershop.com/

    In the lower right hand corner you can switch to English.

    Download one of their PDF catalogs and prepare to DROOL.

    SIP is the mack-daddy of performance scooter shops. :nod
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