scooter vs small dp....

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by damasovi, Dec 18, 2013.

  1. damasovi

    damasovi Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,705
    Location:
    Ensenada, Baja California
    well it all depends on what you call performance, and if you consider the size of the bike, and I all ready know how it performs (a couple of my friends have them) the only question is how I feel on it.

    Will let you know

    Damasovi
    #21
  2. JerryH

    JerryH Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2009
    Oddometer:
    5,069
    Location:
    Chandler, AZ
    Small displacement motorcycles can be a lot of fun to ride. It's a blast to run them up through the gears, shifting at near redline. I remember riding my Ninja 250 that way. The sensation of speed was more fun than actual speed. Only real problem with them is whether or not they are capable of maintaining a sufficient top speed. And in the U.S., whether they are freeway legal or not.
    #22
  3. fullmetalscooter

    fullmetalscooter Let me take this duck off

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2009
    Oddometer:
    3,307
    Location:
    BC
    Mexico then I would find a use honda cargo 125 or new 150 motorcycle . A cargo 150 is 22 000 Mexico or about 2 grand new . Your chooses are almost all the same down there. 8 to 9 Hp be it 110 or 125 and the price is the same. With the cargo 150 you getting 80 mpg and 60 mph I think. If you really want a scooter in then get the supper Cub that is down there 110 cc . Correct me if I wrong for the first time :lol3 but you have to watch out buying used. There some reg fee that has to be paid each year . if it's not paid and you you buy a used bike down there you can get ding for the whole amount owing. Kind of like some of the usa .
    http://www.honda.mx/motos/supercub110/
    http://www.honda.mx/motos/cargo150/
    #23
  4. damasovi

    damasovi Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,705
    Location:
    Ensenada, Baja California
    Amigo I can not correct you, not because you are correct, simply I could not make sense of what you said. I blame it on my poor English skills. But for a bout $2,000 USD (or $26,000 pesos) I can have several options, many good ones.

    Locally we have 2 of the Japaneses dealers, a Honda and a Yamaha. Test drives are the super exception and not the norm. I got a chance to drive the super cub, the FI 110 super cub, and like it a lot. It is just a little small, there is no place to move around like on the Beat. Next up I will try the Cruising, I will my friend to lend it to me for a half a day and see what gives, and then the immortal cargo... I need no t test drive on that, I know then car reach 0-to your door under 30 minute or it is free! (domino's and a bunch of others use it for delivering food, merchandise and medicine)

    I will continue to shop!

    Damasovi
    #24
  5. hugemoth

    hugemoth Long timer

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,098
    Location:
    In the TARDIS
    I'm a big fan of the engine design used on the Cargo 125/150. The upsized copy of that engine on my Lifan 200 (Chinese) has had zero problems in 45,000 miles. If the Chinese copy is that good, the real Honda version must be even better.
    #25
  6. JerryH

    JerryH Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2009
    Oddometer:
    5,069
    Location:
    Chandler, AZ
    If it's the pushrod engine that was in my Lifan 200, you can't go wrong. No cam chain to break. It should last forever. I also like the idea that that Cargo has a rack instead of a passenger seat. It's really too small for a passenger, and it's nice to have a way to carry stuff.
    #26
  7. blugg1

    blugg1 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    May 8, 2012
    Oddometer:
    508
    Location:
    Bisbee, AZ
    I have what may be the best of both worlds (for a guy with not much money):

    1. A 2012 SYM HD200 EVO scooter that is actually capable of freeway speeds, but we don't have them around here, so it's a great around-town vehicle. Bought it used for $2100.

    2. A 2012 Suzuki DR650 for off-road and longer, faster, highway trips. Bought it new, but I had a trade-in.

    So, when I walk out to the car port in the morning I have a choice.
    #27
  8. scootrboi

    scootrboi Long timer

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2011
    Oddometer:
    1,733
    Location:
    Bisbee, AZ
    Yes. The SYM.
    #28
  9. damasovi

    damasovi Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,705
    Location:
    Ensenada, Baja California
    blugg1

    I like what blugg1 is saying, but SYM is NA in Mexico and if I import a bike/scooter it will put me over the budget.

    I need January to come so I can finish my legal affairs (divorce) and have my finances all in place, and then I will be able to make a call.

    Thanks people!

    Damasovi
    #29
  10. JustKip

    JustKip Long timer

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2007
    Oddometer:
    4,790
    Location:
    Fresno, CA
    One thing that you perhaps have not considered is that smaller scooter tires wear out faster than larger diameter tires.
    A scooter with 14-15" tires will need tires half as often as one with 12" tires.
    And replacing the tires on motorcycles is often easier because there's no varinator (CVT) on the rear wheel of a motorcycle.
    #30
  11. damasovi

    damasovi Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,705
    Location:
    Ensenada, Baja California
    really? My Beat has about 12k km. and I have change only the rear tire (at 10K) that is like 6 k miles from a rear tire, on a KLR that is what I get from a rear, and once I had a 125 cc DP honda that I could not wear out a rear (in the 10K km I had it), even do I drove different and I was a lot litter (40-50 lbs slimmer).

    Changing the rear tire was as a lot easier to do than with the KLR, no disc brake to remove nor chain, only bolts from the tire (5)

    More powerful scooter will vary, I am sure!

    Thank you

    Damasovi
    #31
  12. YamaGeek

    YamaGeek Ancient trailbike padwan

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2007
    Oddometer:
    6,798
    Location:
    western oregon
    Darn it Damosovi you've got bikes in MX that most of us Wee Beastie fans in the USA would sell our Grandmothers for.

    And I have to echo HugeMoth's sentiments, get the Honda Cargo 150, it's got a very desirable pedigree of long life and rugged durability. Look at the thread in 'Some Assembly Required' forum of the thread within posted by the guys in Australia playing around with the 125 cc Honda Benly Clone made by Ace. That's a Chinese Clone of the Honda CG125 and they're flogging the crap out of that little bike. with a 150 cc cylinder and head hop-up kit they've managed to get boost the speed 70~75 mph. Those real Honda OHV engines have a reputation not unlike the venerable old aircooled Volkswagens, cheap to buy and maintain. And parts everywhere.
    #32
  13. damasovi

    damasovi Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,705
    Location:
    Ensenada, Baja California
    hey YamaG,

    the cargo the 125 cc was a better bike, the 150 I have my doughs. They make less power (like 1 hp less) they also change the production country, the 125 where from Brazil and the new ones are said to be Mexican, but I see some other components from China? anyway they do not seem as good as before.

    Having said that, I beilive they could be driven from Mexico to Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, and require gas, tires, chain and sprockets. They are very good bikes.

    I will continue to look and see what it takes, and the idea of a trip call "Mexico at 55 mph...." is in my bucket list, and what better bike to do it than in a almost invisible bike (to thieves) with tons of actual dealer support.

    Cheers.

    Damasovi
    #33
  14. fullmetalscooter

    fullmetalscooter Let me take this duck off

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2009
    Oddometer:
    3,307
    Location:
    BC
    Forget the old guys name whom took cargo 125 from Mexico all the way to brazi ? Get bike if you fit on it.
    #34