Scorpion EXO-900 Transformer

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Freightdawg, Oct 24, 2010.

  1. SgtDuster

    SgtDuster Long timer

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    Ok but can we say that if the piping happened to be in the wrong place (i.e. causing discomfort) it's because the helmet doesn't fit to your head in the first place?

    I mean..."fitting" isn't only related to the helmet shape but the overall construction to me.

    A "perfect fit" isn't so perfect if something, anything, is in the wrong place.

    I can't believe myself that I need to explain this. No insult intended dude, but it's how I see the whole thing.

    Whatever the reason...if it causes pain to you but not to everyone (only if you don't have a helmet from a bad batch, which could happen), it doesn't fit you. End of story.


    And I personally think that piping in the wrong place alone can cause local pain and discomfort but not a headache. And it's what fast4d was talking about I think.
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  2. swingset

    swingset Got the knack.

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    :deal
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  3. swingset

    swingset Got the knack.

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    This has been fun, let's do it again.

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  4. JohnBoy777

    JohnBoy777 Pseudo-Adventurist

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    I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade here, but I saw the video on this helmet and noticed they were making a big deal out of how easily the front of the helmet can be removed; yeah, just hit the pavement and find out.

    LINK: Scorpion EXO-900 Transformer Modular Helmet review STG

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0v1mEq-IAA


    Don't get me wrong - there are times I don't wear a helmet (yeah, shame on me), but I use a full-face helmet when I want one and I would never expect this piece of crap to do the job of a real helmet.

    Transformer - right, it'll transform your face if your head hits the pavement.

    JMHO

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  5. Truckin_Thumper

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    I had one of those for about two days.
    While I enjoyed the same features, I had a very different problem.

    The chin strap is made with some fairly rigid stitching. It was right at the bottom of my jaw joint. I swear after the first day of riding more than 30 minutes, it felt as if my face was in a vice. It was pretty tender (both sides)....I rode back to CycleGear and explained the situation. I walked out with a Multitech. My face, while still ugly as a mule, was much happier.

    Its a shame, because the EXO was a very nice lid.
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  6. ccherry

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    well since no one asked my opinion I'm happy to share it..........i have a head, no fuckin idea if it is a shoei or an arai - i've had both, probably think the arai profile is the best fit but currently have a shoei rf 1100, kbc vr2r and scorpion exo 900. would have to agree that out of the box, best fitting and most quiet lid yet is the EXO 900 . yea, i know it isn't as "safe" as the rf 1100 but not sure it isn't the one i will grab every single time i get on the bike - i do not ride without a lid so that isn't an option - my personal choice and you are entitled to yours (but don't ask me to cover the medical costs if you draw the short straw any particular day). so i'm definitely in the camp of those that are supportive of the EXO900.

    in interest of full disclosure - have had Arai Profile, HKC 3/4 (don't remember the model), KBC Force RR and Shoei rf1000 before current list above. all are listed as different shapes by WebBikeWorld so I'm guessing I'm just a blockhead.....
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  7. Chuck289

    Chuck289 Air cooled

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    It seems Scorpions fit some people and are totally uncomfortable for others. Luckily I have a Scorpion head. I still haven't found any helmet that is more comfortable for me than a Scorpion.
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  8. HORSEMOTO

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    great lid---but i had to sand off a little material in the area of the forehead beading to releave pressure. Custom fit, yes, and no pain...
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  9. NoDirt4Me

    NoDirt4Me Been here awhile

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    Mine only hurt on my left side where the strap came across my jaw-bone. It helped some when I cut out that strap retaining do-dad.

    Wish Shoei would come out with a lid with drop-down tinted visor....

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  10. CrozB

    CrozB Been here awhile

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    I am on my 2nd EXO-900 and my Wife is on her 1st. I have an issue with BOTH the pressure on the forehead and the left side of my jawbone joint feeling pressured after 1 hour of riding. Originally I had a XL. I sold that (at a loss) and bought a XXL. It really didn’t help at all. My wife on the other had loves hers. We have gone on all day rides together and she has no complaints at all. There is something to be said for the fit; when we get off the bike after an all day ride, and my forehead is in pain, my wife says that I have a huge indentation in my forehead, where she does not. HORSEMOTO, is correct that you can remove some of the internal marital to help with the forehead pressure, but the chin strap sitting right across the pressure point of the jaw bone is unbearable. I might try NoDirt4Me’s method of “cut out that strap retaining do-dad” and see if that helps. I LOVE the helmet until the pain starts. Then the ride become miserable.

    Moral of the story for me, buy a helmet from a place with a good return/exchange policy. (oh and watch the flea market as there might be a XXL for sale soon :cry ).

    -D
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  11. Nullya

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    Jeff - Bought one of these EXO900 this spring and can't ride more then an hour without an irritating forehead rub. I thought the liner was rough so I stuck moleskin to the affected area. Now I can ride longer but after a recent 1200 mile trip I was stuck dealing with enough irritation to give my forehead small skin blisters. My problem is that I can't feel anything wrong when I first put the helmet on. I also contacted Scorpion and they told my they have a new liner releasing with helmets shipping in October. I am not sure I want to put anymore money into this helmet since I can't clearly identify the problem. Thinking maybe I will sell it and move on or just use it for a commuting helmet??
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  12. PARIAH

    PARIAH Been here awhile

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    Normally I keep helmets for several years, unless damaged. The Transformer was the exception. One season and I wanted to get rid of it before then.
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  13. Mambo Dave

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    Second night of commuting the 40 miles to work tonight - thunderstorms and rain a-plenty... the Exo-900 did very well compared to my 1 year-old HJC CL-16. The biggest problem were the cars on the highway that would hydroplane if they reached any reasonable speed... so I had a lot of lane changing to get to work on time. Still, with all of that spray and rain, the helmet kept me dry (I have no windscreen on the bike). I am impressed.

    I thought i might have had that pressure point on mine (it was just purchased and arrived to my door last week, so... maybe it has a redesigned liner?), but now i think it was because it is a tight fitting helmet and i was chewing gum (so my jaw was pulling on the chin strap, pulling the helmet down, lol). I really don't know what to think since it's only been about 130 miles with it.

    I am willing to take a straight-down picture shot of the inner liner if you guys want to judge to see if they actually changed it. I bought mine from the Motorcycle Superstore, so with that October deadline of the change-over and the Superstore's sales, I have to imagine mine was made after October. I'll look at the box to see if there is any made-on date when I get home.
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  14. Ricky Chuck

    Ricky Chuck Red Green Rulz!

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    Hey all, sorry I didn't see this sooner, but may be able to help. I was having a similar problem with my exo900-XL, was sort of ok fit until I fastened down the front, then it was like a vice on my head, lol. Didn't get better. I was about to throw it away when I talked to a guy at Scorpion who gave me a part number for ordering a liner/cheekpad combo for an XXL. It is 5mm smaller than the XL, and when it got here and I put it in, great googly moogly! Felt so much better I was actually laughing.

    Find a local shop that sells Scorpions and order off the numbers on the picture. They even sell an XXXL that is 10 mm smaller, I believe. Anyway, solved my problems...liner also does not put the tattoo on my forehead as much, but I also wear a do rag underneath and it evens out the pressure points...so far I am loving the new fit. Can't help about any leaking, mine went through some bad stuff and hasn't done so yet. This label is on the plastic bag ordered directly by the local Honda shop. The Scorpion rep was there and verified it. Price was like 39.99, much cheaper than a new helmet...which I was about to buy!

    Sorry, tried to post a link to a pic but it keeps disappearing...below is the label data.

    Item NO: 89-0325
    Name: KW Liner
    Fit For: EXO-900
    Color: Gray/Black 2XL
    MFR#: 19-603-03-07
    Scorpion Helmets RS8
    EXO-900 Liner GRY 2XL
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  15. Effervescent

    Effervescent Sexiest ADVrider '14

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    Just picked up a neon XXL new off FleaBay for $161 shipped. I KNOW!:clap

    The seller (a bike dealership) has a ton of sizes and that HAS to be the best price in town. PM me if you can't find him.:freaky
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  16. JimVonBaden

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    I still wear mine every day. This is the longest lasting helmet I have ever had.

    Jim :brow
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  17. Effervescent

    Effervescent Sexiest ADVrider '14

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    Was hoping mine would arrive before the weekend but didn't happen.
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  18. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave Backyard Adventurer

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    Wow, a thread I forgot all about.

    I gave up on my EXO-900 for the reasons CrozB listed above.


    Top mid forhead pressure point that was too much on longer trips, and pressure on the jaw that, even to this day, I don't ever feel over the short hauls, but over the 300 or 500 mile days it became excruciating. Flipping up the front helped with that pressure, but the ache would stay - and I wouldn't flip it up for very long on long highway trips before I decided that it was too risky and dangerous to travel without the full-face protection at those speeds.

    So it is now a commuting helmet - but only after comuting the 80 mile days a lot with it. The guys at my new job noticed a bald(er) spot at the front middle of my hairline that I suspect is due to the EXO-900 since it's so odd a shape, and since it's right where the EXO placed pressure.

    Not happy I bought it, but I did find that I like a convertible helmet around town - just not this one.
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  19. Effervescent

    Effervescent Sexiest ADVrider '14

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    Did you try the suggested liner replacement?

    Still waiting on my shipment.
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  20. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave Backyard Adventurer

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    No.

    I decided to start only buying helmets that truly fit my head shape - not ones engineered to try to fit all of them. This pretty much rules out all 'dual sport' helmets, and most convertible helmets like the EXO.

    First and foremost, for the amounts I ride, I demand to at least see four different sized shells for a model of helmet (to make sure that fit is a criteria the maker is actually considering), and then it needs to be long-oval.

    For years I had a great fitting Shoei. I tried to get away from paying for that expensive of a helmet twice now with these 'fit all' helmets (HJC and Scorpion), and am done playing games with them.
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