Scottoiler forumevangelism

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Hicks, Apr 3, 2012.

  1. GH41

    GH41 Been here awhile

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    We love you Hicks but you need to lay off of the cool aid. GH
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  2. NCD

    NCD Dirty Hairy

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    Costs about $5. Bottle good for about 6000 miles of mixed use. Takes :15 to apply.
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  3. GH41

    GH41 Been here awhile

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    How could that lube possibly work without an over priced automatic oiler? Using that oil will shorten the life of your chain and possibly cause bodily injury. Your bikes performance will also suffer! The only way to reduce the damge is to stop and lube the chain every 15 minutes. If you remove the front sprocket cover and place the lube on the sprocket it will spread the oil through centrifical force to all of the chain links. Any other method of application will make your penis fall off! GH
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  4. GH41

    GH41 Been here awhile

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    I forgot you girls. There is no telling what will happen to your thing if you don't use the oiler!! OOPS! That don't sound right. GH
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  5. señormoto

    señormoto Supermoto Abuser

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    Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that some people aren't minimalists and are also overweight and need to have every creature comfort on their trips. How much does the beer cooler and lazy boy that you carry around weigh? :lol3

    This thread is great entertainment. I'm really sure you're winning over potential customers with your quality evangelism here.
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  6. Hicks

    Hicks der Überluber

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    :D:D of course....

    the only difference is, that when your tiny american peepee falls off... chicks hardly notice... :)
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  7. Hicks

    Hicks der Überluber

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    there is a difference between your homotrips, where everyone has it's own bike... and traveling with girls ;)

    I do also expect that you can't even unpack the tent, so the hotel is your solution, right? :D

    not to even talk about cold and below-freezing temperatures.. :p

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    Hix tenting in Andorra, below 0 temp:
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  8. Hicks

    Hicks der Überluber

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    looks good.. but it washes away quickly in wet I suppose...
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  9. DesertStrom

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    Just wondering; As you consider yourself the "oiler-specialist", why did you go for the Scott-oiler and not for a proper one?
    Scott-oilers only supply oil as a function of the engine-RPM (supply of oil is the same at i.e. 3000 rpm at stand-still and 3000 rpm in 6th gear).
    Wouldn't it be better to have oil supply as a function of chain-movement like other oilers do? i.e. the faster the chain moves, the more oil will be supplied.
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  10. Hicks

    Hicks der Überluber

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    I dont have a vacuum-type Scottoiler, but the eSystem.

    Oiling tied to a chain speed is not a bad idea, but could be quite complicated. You've another variables -- the amount of dust and especially.. the water.

    With eSystem you can easily alter the flow rate according the conditions:

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    I ride normally with 50 secs/drop.. in rain 20-30 s/dp.

    also.. it does have a movement detector -- so it doesnt oil when you're standing... in reality it starts above 20-50km/h
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  11. DesertStrom

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    Oiling tied to chain-speed is not complicated at all, already exists for years.
    The other variables you're talking about, dust and water, do exist with a Scott-oiler as well, or does the Scott let it stop raining as soon as you switch it on?
    When it becomes wet or dusty simply adjust the oil-rate with a few tabs on the controller-box. Existing technology which is new for Scott-oilers since the introduction of their e-system.

    Further, if the oil-rate is tied to chain-speed, you don't need a movement detector as it always supplies as required, not only at speeds above 20-50 km/h

    To be short: Scott-oilers are crap as they are tied to speed/movement.

    Proper oilers are tied to chain-speed, (which is complicated in your opinion although this already exists for years, even way before Scott came out with their e-system).

    So I don't really understand why you heavily try to promote the Scot-oiler as there are better products available. You're not a Scott-distributor by any chance?
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  12. Hicks

    Hicks der Überluber

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    DS.. to say that a Scottoiler, even eSystem, is a crap because it does not tie the oiling period to the chain speed is really an extremism.

    It works WELL with the current setup, co WHY to complicate the stuff?

    If you got a better oiler with good-looking display, reasonable reservoir & price, good service.. post it here, I'm interested.

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    btw: I'm a satisfied Scottoiler customer and a frequent forum flamewars participant.. could it be worse? :sweeti
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  13. DesertStrom

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    You keep on saying that it is complicated, but for everybody who is able to change a chain or maintain the tyre-pressure it is not a challenge at all.

    But the reason I want to change a setup that works WELL, is because I want a setup that works PERFECT.

    Funny you mention the display of the e-system, as this is not waterproof. Yes I admit it looks nice, but where I come from it only counts when it's waterproof.

    If you would have used Google before you purchased your system, one of your hits would have been the Pro-Oiler. A system which supplies oil depending on chain-speed, with a nice waterproof display and about $ 90 cheaper than the Scot-oiler (for US customers, $ 66 cheaper for Europeans). Installation took about 2 hrs, this includes the programming and the beer. Not sure how you define a reservoir being reasonable, but it's a white plastic bottle, you can order any size you want and it doesn't leak. No complaints about their service.

    I don't want to promote the Pro-Oiler in any way, for sure better systems became available since I've bought mine, but it leaves a Scott-oiler far beyond.
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  14. Hicks

    Hicks der Überluber

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    Pro-Oiler?

    you cant be serious :) I'm busy at the moment.. will tear down your arguments on the evening...
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  15. DesertStrom

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    So far the pro-oiler beats ALL your arguments for the Scott-oiler so I am pretty curious what new arguments you'll come up with. :lurk
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  16. Unstable Rider

    Unstable Rider Moto Fotografist

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    This is fricken hilarious.

    I feel an urge to wrap my home in saran wrap and duck tape suddenly.

    But you guys indeed are rock stars. Let's rate some condoms after this topic.

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  17. NCD

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    Costs about $5. Bottle good for about 6000 miles of mixed use. Takes :15 to apply.
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  18. Olvi

    Olvi Ice Butt

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    Just been laughing my ass out on this topic:poser

    Well, this got my attention. Will definitely wait for your reply :lurk.
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  19. señormoto

    señormoto Supermoto Abuser

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    Oh good, you're proving a lot about yourself via all the assumptions you're making:
    1. you're homophobic, usually the sign of latent homoerotic fixations and desires
    2. you're concerned about the size of your penis; most men that are confident in themselves don't need to resort to penis measuring unless they just really love dicks
    3. you're obsessed with lube and auto-lubing devices
    3. you suck at researching user profiles, otherwise you'd have seen pics of my moto trips in cold weather and maybe if you were really good at internet profiling you could have found videos from some of my ice climbing and mountaineering trips, so your comments about tents and hotels are obviously foolish.

    Btw, that pic of your sub-zero camping looks more like you setup your tent in the backyard of a suburb somewhere. Nothing about that picture looks cold, uncomfortable, or roughing it at all. Rather poor example of your supposed hardcore experiences with moto touring.


    How's your evangelizing going? Get anyone that actually wants to use this product you're pushing? Yeah, I didn't think so. :lol3
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  20. Dano7619

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    Stationed in some cold places with the military, but never below zero with green grass and leaves on trees. Guess it's possible, just unusual.
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