Screwing around with a VW Eurovan!

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Xtremjeepn, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. Willius

    Willius Been here awhile

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    :clap Just in time for the weekend. Will be expecting to see your van back on the road by Monday.
  2. Xtremjeepn

    Xtremjeepn Motorhead!

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    Had to go buy another engine stand this morning. I think this is my 4th one. I should probably just quit selling them. Also had to move a bunch of stuff around to use the hoist.

    Glad I did a little research online this morning about how to mount a VR6 on the engine stand. Apparently with the block mounted to the traditional holes its REALLY easy to crack a water jacket. Using the plate makes like this works great. Hard as hell to spin, so I mounted it at a angle where I will be able to reach the bottom and top of the motor pretty easily.

    I will need to change out the valve cover, oil pan and oil pick up tube to make the Jetta long block work in my Eurovan.

    Since this is a brand new engine I'm going to install as much brand new stuff on it as reasonably possible. (Waterpump, crack pipe, etc, etc)

    Once it is all ready to go in then I can swap the other motor onto the stand and look at rebuilding it.

    ......and since I had to move my bike out and the weather is nice........this project is on hold until I get back from a ride!!!!:lol3

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  3. jerdog53

    jerdog53 Crop Dusting Everywhere

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    Post some pictures of the ride!
  4. troidus

    troidus Long timer

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    I have to regularly explain the concept of not selling tools to my wife, so you have my sympathy.

    It would never have occurred to me to bolt up an engine sideways. It kinda makes sense, though, in this application.
  5. Abenteuerfahrer

    Abenteuerfahrer Deaf on Wheels

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    Since you mentioned "crack pipe". Ditch the plastic pipe.....

    These heirloom parts can be had from:

    gruevenparts.com

    http://www.gruvenparts.com/website/cart/cart.php?target=product&product_id=255


    evwparts.com

    (http://www.evwparts.com/vwparts/EurovanCooling/022121050-GP.html)

    and 42DraftDesigns.com

    (http://www.42draftdesigns.com/categories/products/vr6coolantpipe.html)

    evwparts...aluminum

    42draftdesign: SS

    One caveat..make sure that they're for the 24 valve/V6/2.8l...measure the id of the oil cooler hose. Both metal coolant pipe nipples(connections) were too small(10mm). You need 16mm assuming your oil cooler is this:

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    I like the looks of the 42draft design= brushed SS or powder coated wringle black. Am still negotiating with 42 draft due to wrong coolant nipple.

    cheers
  6. rensho

    rensho Been here awhile

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    Hey Cole. This is Tom from the vortex board.

    Glad you see you got the motor.

    FYI, when you pull the 2 connectors for the cam variable timing, make a note which is front and rear. They are not keyed separately. I had mine plugged in opposite, and thankfully it didn't send a valve through the piston.
  7. Xtremjeepn

    Xtremjeepn Motorhead!

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    Had a few hours to kill today while it was nice out!

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    Will be media blasting and painting many bits before they go in. Also need to pick up many shiny new parts for this!


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  8. RocketJohn

    RocketJohn Hook em' Horns!

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    wow, already bolted up to the transmission... :clap
  9. jerdog53

    jerdog53 Crop Dusting Everywhere

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    Where are you going to media blast the little bits at?
  10. Xtremjeepn

    Xtremjeepn Motorhead!

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    Well, I'm a member of "Club Workshop" downtown. They have one, but the glass is usually toast.

    I'm considering just buying the one at HF since its on sale right now for $189:lol3
  11. jerdog53

    jerdog53 Crop Dusting Everywhere

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    I could use one for the side job...
  12. Xtremjeepn

    Xtremjeepn Motorhead!

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    Your welcome to pay for part of it:lol3


    ...But, I'd probably just let you use it anytime you want anyway:deal
  13. jerdog53

    jerdog53 Crop Dusting Everywhere

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    No I'm happy to help out, business is business.. :deal
  14. Xtremjeepn

    Xtremjeepn Motorhead!

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    Thought I would give you guys a bit of an update to satisfy your Monday morning living vicariously through the web needs!

    I've spent the last few days running around having parts tested or replaced. Some of the parts that were good just got cleaned up with air tools and abrasives (I just cussed at them until the rust was gone:lol3), then painted.

    I had to rebuild the new oil pump with the old pick up tube. This meant doing a LOT of cleaning of the old tube to make sure it was totally clean.

    Also have to reuse the Eurovan specific oil pan and valve cover. So those needed lots of cleaning to make them worthy of the new engine.

    I've replaced lots of old corroded factory nuts and bolts with new factory hardware!

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  15. bobfab

    bobfab Long timer

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    more pictures :lurk

    Looks great thus far!
  16. Cogswell

    Cogswell Spudly Adventurer

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    Thanks for the update, I'm enjoying following along on your build.:clap


    Mike
  17. a1fa

    a1fa Throttle Jockey™

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    Oh.. Seat, and Skoda, how I miss you.. :evil Those bolts get rusty quickly.
  18. Xtremjeepn

    Xtremjeepn Motorhead!

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    Not when you live in the high desert. Rust is nearly non existent in Colorado. The rust came from the vans previous life in New Jersey. So I'm eliminating what corrosion I can.
  19. Xtremjeepn

    Xtremjeepn Motorhead!

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    Think I may actually make some notable progress today. It's been tricky to sneak out in the garage with a 13 week old daughter around. :lol3


    Got a bit done yesterday. It's just been lots of cleaning, and not the type of cleaning that makes you go "wow, look at how clean that is". More the type of cleaning that makes you go "ugh, finally its clean enough to not cause problems!":lol3


    Here is an example of what I've been dealing with. There are a few things that must be swapped from the AXK Eurovan motor to the BDF Jetta motor. Things like the valve cover, oil pan, oil pickup tube, oil cooler, oil filler neck (start to see a pattern here?) I have to swap over a bunch of oil system parts from a motor that had an oil system problem. So everything must be cleaned to a fault to make sure to not contaminate the new engine.

    Here is the underside of the valve covers. Note that the one on top has already been media blasted once and I've spent about 2 hours with various degreasers, even soaked it over night and lots of scrubbing.

    I finally got it clean enough to see that the black plastic end piece was removable. (I wish I would have taken a picture of this when I started, you couldn't tell the black plastic end piece was a different material than the Aluminum cover. How crazy is that?

    When I removed the cover I discovered a whole new valley of crud. Took quite awhile to get it clean enough to install.

    The interior angles, hose mounts and oil filler mount are totally different on the Eurovan valve cover. Which is why it had to be reused.

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    There was no way that nasty old cover was going over this new valve train!

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    Once the parts were finally clean enough (no picture), I filled the motor with new Mobile One oil and pulled the oil pump drive and primed the pump with an air ratchet. Normally I'd do this a bit later in the process but the oil pump drive lives under one of the headers. Which means to access it you must have the intake and header off.

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    Then the valve cover was finally ready to go back on with as many new parts off the new cover as possible. (And a bunch of other stuff magically hopped onto the engine too)

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  20. RocketJohn

    RocketJohn Hook em' Horns!

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    Nice work!