SD wheels on SE

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by zenKTM, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. zenKTM

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    I recently picked up some 2nd hand superduke wheels for my 08 950SE :1drink

    the SD wheels run 320mm rotors, the stock SE is 300mm and not interchangeable

    thus i need a brake caliper adaptor
    can anyone tell me the correct part no. FROM EXPERIENCE?

    i ordered this one on advice and it is wrong

    77013914000

    an expensive and time wasting exercise :baldy

    i wanna go ride these babies!! :D


    ps lemme know if anyone wants to buy the above adaptor
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  2. River6822

    River6822 Fat kid on a 950 SE

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    There's a thread on here somewhere about some one doing this. It's not straight forward and I'm fairly sure it's not something you can just order. This person did some machining to get them to work.

    I've personally looked into it and come to the same conclusion, that machining is necessary.

    I'll try to search for the thread and If I find it I'll post a link.

    Stobie will have some answers and insight.

    Here's a little info on my 17/17 set up.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632492&highlight=stobie

    and a bit more...

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409267&highlight=stobie

    I think that's a good start. Good luck. I hope you make them work, I love how they look.
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  3. Chris618

    Chris618 Been here awhile

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    PM Trailtrick. He has a caliper relocation bracket for you. Then post up a pic of those wheels man!
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  4. KTMforget

    KTMforget Been here awhile

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    I am about to do the same thing to my SE. CJ Designs has a kit for this. He includes everything that is needed.

    www.cjdesignsllc.com
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  5. zenKTM

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    awesome :clap

    thanks for the replys fellas
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  6. River6822

    River6822 Fat kid on a 950 SE

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    :clap CJ DESIGNS! :clap

    Hey sportrider - I know that adapter kit wasn't available when we looked at installation. That might be your ticket - You've already got the wheels!

    Damn I'm jealous!
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  7. Chris618

    Chris618 Been here awhile

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    My wheels are now in Australia with Zenktm. I decided to keep the 950sm. I talked with trailtrick and he also has caliper relocation brackets for a 320mm rotor. I will have to buy one as well, from the sounds of it the one from my Husaberg sm kit won't work. I plan to run adventure wheels with 320mm brake, switch to stock dirt wheels for trail riding and use the 950sm for twisties. :) Now, just need to get rid of this foot of snow.
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  8. cjracer

    cjracer AWD please!!

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    Hi All.

    Just want to clear this up.

    Check out this link. Look at the bottom pics.
    http://www.cjdesignsllc.com/CarbonFiber.html

    This is a bike we built at the shop. I built my adaptors so that I can swap from dirt to street in about 45 min (taking my time). That's if you have a dirt set of rims and rotors and a street set of rims and rotors.

    These use the OEM STOCK ADV or SE brake rotors w/ the STOCK brake calipers. No need for any special machining of the KTM SD or SM 17" rims. The SE required new Front bushings to get the side to side spacing correct. We have a few kits running around the world. The SE would use 1 adaptor, the ADV would use 2.

    Now that the Front end my 950 ADV has been converted to AWD, this same setup won't fit. I need to build a new setup for this bike based on the 525 AWD front wheel setups.

    My current setup has AWD 525 bottom fork ends so I'm working on fitting a 320mm KTM rotor w/ stock calipers. (Single Sided) These should be the same or similar mounts as the SE.

    The rotor that could be used is any Supermoto 320mm rotor used on the DIRT BIKES.

    If you have the stock rotors that were on the SM or SD rims. My kit won't work. Again, I wanted to go from dirt to street as easy as possible. This meant keeping the rotors the same.

    I had my new 320mm rotor parts anodized custom colors to look trick and I finally got that all back together. I plan to get this built up today. I'll post some pics how it works out on the 21" rim. If it works on the 21", It should work on my custom 17" Adaptor kit w/ 320mm rotor.

    I have 950 SE showing up in the next few weeks. When that shows up, I'll test everything out again, get some instructions written up and post it on the site. Best I can do. Hope that helps.

    Zen, Your adaptor should work if you have my adaptors and the correct dirt rotors.
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  9. River6822

    River6822 Fat kid on a 950 SE

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    I'm sorry my post was misleading. I know the SE rotor does not simply bolt up to the SD wheel. In my mind this = machining, whether it be to the wheel itself or to machining up an adaptor.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    Thanks CJ for another great contribution to the KTM world.:clap I wish I knew about these adapters 3 months ago. You live and you learn.

    ZEN - Post pics when you get them loaded up. I'm jealous.
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  10. Chris618

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    I could be wrong, but I believe the KTM 17" mag wheels (SD or SM) will bolt right up to the se forks. You will have to use the SD or SM rotor and will need a caliper relocation bracket for the 320mm rotor of the SD.

    CJ - Yes, Thank you for all your wisdom and input in this forum. I have learned much from your posts. I have a Husaberg SM kit (320mm rotor and relocation caliper bracket) and plan to add the 320mm rotor to the adventure 21" rim on my se. Will the factory relocation bracket fit my fork leg so I can use my stock caliper?
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  11. zenKTM

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    Thanks for that detailed reply cj, very helpful

    my adaptor is useless with the stock caliper as both the recess for the brake pads is too small and the holes for the caliper are at a smaller offset, so i can't see how it could work :cry
    (could machine to get the brake pads fitting but won't solve the incorrect offset)
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  12. cjracer

    cjracer AWD please!!

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    I'm back to the drawing board here on the 320mm conversion too. I didn't know that there are 2 different Caliper pin widths used until last night.:baldy Learn something new everyday.

    I guess after 2007 there is a change in the Brembo Calipers. I could swap on an earlier caliper, but I hope to figure something else out. I find it hard to believe that no company has built a relocation bracket that works w/ the new calipers over the last 4 years. Need to keep looking.:hmmmmm

    My 17" setup will work w/ the STOCK calipers and the STOCK SE/ADV rotors. Sorry I'm not much more help at this time.
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  13. Stobie

    Stobie Mr. Motivated

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    Javier/Trailtricks has a source for relo bracket for the SE. He sells a 320 kit for the SE; seems like I remember he gets it out of Italy.

    I hear there's a machinist guy up your way who could prolly make you one.:D
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  14. cjracer

    cjracer AWD please!!

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    That's great. I thought I heard word of something, but when I emailed him about buying some brackets I got no response.

    I would have thought he'd speak up on this if he did.

    If there is a part already available, I feel there is no point for me to spend time reproducing it.

    Javier, speak up if you have something. :D
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  15. Chris618

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    Javier told me in a pm that he has a bracket. I am also awaiting a response so I can order one.
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  16. zenKTM

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    + 1

    I pm'd trailtrick a few days ago and no response, even though he's been on adv rider in that time so I also assume no go like cj :cry
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    If someone can figure this out, I would like to run a 320mm rotor with the stock brake caliper on my 04 with the stock wheel.
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  19. zenKTM

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    i got this reply from trailtrick through his business:

    For wath you want the bracket i made not work i have a caliper for run the 320 with supermoto wheels $450 ship

    no good as i want to swap wheelsets with some ease

    I've asked him what his bracket is intended for...
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  20. Chris618

    Chris618 Been here awhile

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    I have to find time to get in the garage and figure this out. I want to put the 320mm rotor on my se. It shouldn't be this difficult to find a caliper relocation bracket. I also have a 4 pot ktm supermoto caliper that may work with the sm/sd wheels but not the spoke wheels. I can remove the wheel off my 950sm and put it on the se to see if that will work.

    I also remember seeing a se with sm wheels in the 950se picture thread. Has anyone asked him what he did?
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