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Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by Milehi, Feb 6, 2013.

  1. Milehi

    Milehi Been here awhile

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    I am trying the standard settings listed on the label, I like the suspension on the soft side. Will LESS rebound damping keep the rear wheel on the ground more over washboard? When climbing and turning switchbacks the rear hops more than I think it should.Thanks.
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  2. henryroten

    henryroten Been here awhile

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    I think that less rebound will help on washboard but the key is to test it yourself until it feels right. Go through the same section with a lot of rebound and then with very little and see what direction produces the desired effect. But a shock revalve will do wonders to the ride. Superplush fixed mine.

    Good luck
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  3. Milehi

    Milehi Been here awhile

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    My suspension sticker has rear preload in mm. What is measured to get this spec ?
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  4. Two Moto Kiwis

    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    From memory it is one turn of the spring = 1 mm.

    I am like you I prefer to run it softer, for your high speed compression on the rear you are pretty safe to turn it out completely, that is the 17 mm nut, for your low speed compression damping take that out about 3 - 4 clicks at a time or you will not notice any diference, don't be afraid to play with it way outside of the stickers parameters as you can always bring it back.

    Lesser rebound will certainly help on washboard but may be springy on the open road, to me than is a small price to pay to get our fillings in place as we are not going warp factor two anyway.

    Make sure your adjustments for softness for low speed compression damping and rebound damping are similar or you may experience packing, this is caused by to firmer rebound not allowing the wheel to return quick enough.

    Hope this helps, any queries fire away.
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  5. henryroten

    henryroten Been here awhile

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    The 17mm nut you are referring to is the high speed compression adjuster. It helps on square edged pot holes, etc. where the middle adjuster is for the rolling bump or sand whoops. Some people like the high speed all the way out, some like it in the middle to one turn. I go 1 1/2 turns for no solid reason.
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  6. Two Moto Kiwis

    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    Thanks for the comment on our blog, we are enjoying it too and feel lucky to be able to be on the road.

    Sounds like you may have other issues depending on the valving and sound like it has been revalved fo someone heavier.

    Couldn't have put that better.:clap, we run our high speed completely out but remember there is a cross over point as well and it is just how we like it.
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  7. James Siddall

    James Siddall suspension guy

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    To the original question, a faster rebound clicker setting (more open), will likely improve the function over tightly spaced washboard by allowing the shock to recover before it encounters the next bump. a shocks inability to do this is what is commonly referred to as "packing"

    The 17mm nut outside the shocks compression clicker is what is called the "high speed" compression adjuster. It is a bit of a misnomer, as real high speed movements are more regulated by the compression stack inside the shock.
    The high speed adjuster actually increases or reduces spring preload against a miniature stack that is contained within the compression adjuster itself. This allows the bleed circuit to either hang in for longer or be overcome more easily, thus making it an adjuster for the adjuster if you will.
    In practical application it works as sort of a dynamic ride height adjuster, either resisting or allowing squat to the rear.
    Hope that helps, I find understanding the mechanism often help make understanding its function much clearer.

    Cheers

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  8. ABuck99

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    +1 Always nice when a pro offers some wisdom that be comprehended- thanks James

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