SE with Rough Gears

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  1. Soultwater

    Soultwater Been here awhile

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    I got a used 3500 mile SE last year and really don’t like the way this thing shifts through the gears. I put about 1500 miles since the purchase and changed oil and all that stuff but the gearbox seems really rough to me. Are all the SEs like this?

    I haven’t been on any other LC8 bikes to say if this normal or not…. maybe just the SE?
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  2. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    Wearing bike boots or Crocs???
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  3. 950TRANSALP

    950TRANSALP Been here awhile

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    your HONDA's ,
    but they do brake in with lots more miles on them .
    20,000 plus
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  4. ktm950se

    ktm950se Banned

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    Greetings,
    My SE only has about 1200 miles on it, but the gearbox is super slick.
    Yes, even Honda slick.

    ktm950se
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  5. dogsslober

    dogsslober No neck tie, Ti neck

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    8000 miles and very smooth. What kind of oil you using. I run redline 20/50. When its been in there for 4000 shifting from neutrel is a little clunky, but thru the gears is still smooth.
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  6. Soultwater

    Soultwater Been here awhile

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    It’s the gears not the boots.

    It’s driving me crazy engine hot or cold 10 miles or 110 miles.
    I have 2 complaints
    #1 sometimes I pull the clutch in and go for first and all it does is grind the gear. The clutch operation seems to work just fine but the gear operation is lacking.
    #2 when going through the gears the shift action is real hard like loud clanking but the foot lever is not hard to move. Causal riding not hauling ass or you could say riding like a BMW owner… LOL
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  7. Coastie3202

    Coastie3202 King of the Mountain

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    6000 miles on my SE and gear shifts are smooth.
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  8. dogsslober

    dogsslober No neck tie, Ti neck

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    Have you cleaned the clutch jet??
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  9. big adv

    big adv I need supervision

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    Sounds to be an issue with the clutch actuation, I'd check for leaks, and bleed the system. The slave cylinder has been known to be problematic.

    Good luck,

    Earl
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  10. Soultwater

    Soultwater Been here awhile

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    Is this something simple that I can do or should this by done by the dealer?

    I’m an aviation mechanic not a bike mechanic but I think I can handle most tasks.
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  11. Pete156

    Pete156 I love to eat!

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    +1

    I'm guessing it will shift better after simply bleeding the clutch system. It's real easy.
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  12. Soultwater

    Soultwater Been here awhile

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    Should have some time tomorrow for a bleeding… if I can find some mineral oil
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  13. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    Amsoil synthetic ATF works very well, nice light action.
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  14. Soultwater

    Soultwater Been here awhile

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    I don’t have many options in my location No Amsoil here. I should be able to find some mineral oil at our grocery store though.
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  15. charlie264

    charlie264 Long timer

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    Clutch. When I start mine from cold, let it warm up to 3 bars, choke off and my tick over is at the lowest I can get away with and she still clunks into first. When she was new the clutch would bite giving me bad changes, false neutrals etc. Miles my friend, it gets better.
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  16. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    Real Rx type mineral oil gives a dead, sluggish lever. Might be better but not necessarily good. Regular ATF is probably lighter & a better option.
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  17. triplenickel

    triplenickel Long timer

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    I'd have to say clutch too if you pull it in and the gears grind it must not be disengaging.
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  18. Soultwater

    Soultwater Been here awhile

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    I noticed if I rev the engine a little I can get it to change without grinding both up and down gears.

    The more I describe the problems the more it sounds like a clutch issue to me. But the clutch feels like it is working fine other than the shifting.

    What other fluid can I use? I may have something in my garage?
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  19. dogsslober

    dogsslober No neck tie, Ti neck

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    At the sticky top of page,Orange crush thread index and links. click ktm 950 halls of wisdom, then go down to clutch booster replacment and in there it shows how to do the clutch jet.:evil
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  20. David37

    David37 Been here awhile

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    What oil brand and weight are you using? I don't want to start another oil thread but I would try another synthetic oil before trying anything else.
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