Sealine Qatar Rally

Discussion in 'Racing' started by doyle, Apr 16, 2013.

  1. tehdutchie

    tehdutchie Long timer

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  2. garfey

    garfey Scruffy Adventurer

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    Good on Quinn for riding his plan.
    He was right with Coma @PC1 so the temptation to follow must have been great.
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  3. too old

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    Way to go, but it's not going to win him any short term honours, but it will improve his navigation - maybe he should get some roadbooks off Hogwild and get some practice in at home - I would have thought it best not to practice in real events though.:huh

    I see that that start order was determined by the authorities - so if you were cynical then they have handed Coma the advantage :evil:evil
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  4. doyle

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    According to Chavo, it was a very difficult stage for navigation. He took a wrong turn 1km before the right spot in the roadbook as it seems like most did. He saw Quinn at first but figured he got lost because he never saw him again until the end.
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  5. HogWild

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    He has my phone number, and he knows I have a catalog of training roadbooks. Same for Kurt Caselli. But my phone isn't ringing.
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  6. Deadly99

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    +1

    I am very surprised to hear he is training during a race. I as well would have thought training before and between events would have been the focus, then at the races going balls out to win or place high in the ranks to appease sponsors, etc....
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  7. too old

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    Can't really understand it, young Sam has been making his own and using old ones in the UAE and his navigation is getting much stronger as has been recently witnessed.

    If the guys are to be serious in rally then they really can't leave navigation to chance.
    Yes they will win stages, but doubtful it will take them all the way to a rally win.
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  8. Deadly99

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    Maybe Speedbrain just like to spend big money on training ...
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  9. too old

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    You may actually have a point Ted :lol3:lol3
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  10. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

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    I hate to say it, but I wonder if the decision to bring Quinn to Qatar was borne more out of knowing that Barreda wouldn't be there. :dunno I've know Joan was going in for surgery for a few weeks and that it would result in missing this rally. I'm speculating but had Joan been healthy, would Quinn be racing? He's got a Speedbrain contract through 2014, but I've no idea what the details are.
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  11. too old

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    Doesn't quite stack up Chris as I think both JBB and Quinn were registered before JBB broke down in the Desert Challenge in Abu Dhabi, in fact the Qatar entry closed before the ADDC started.

    But a lot of money for a training ride in an event that is noted for difficult navigation due to the terrain:huh
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  12. Scotty Breauxman

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    I'm gonna swing for the piƱata here- But I guess SPEEDBRAIN wants to tap the previously mostly untapped North American market. They see the potential here and now see that only a few Americans can win (ahem) DAKAR stages in the current era.

    This is why they are grooming CODY through his comeback, that he too can win stages. I am bothered to hear that both Caselli and Cody have access to the Tyler Durden of rally-nav in the US, yet they do not capitalize on this resource.
    [​IMG]
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  13. Baja Dad

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    Ring !!! Ring !!!!!!
    I could some training roadbooks ?????
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  14. HogWild

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    Their's a nice pretty set of 4 "beginner" NORRA roadbooks that will be handed out in Mexicali this weekend for a little 1000 mile race. While some are down there, me and LKN4DRT and RMS and BicyclePhil will be in an undisclosed location in Arizona making some more Grand Rally training roadbooks, for 300 miles of Stage 24, and half of Stage 16 (yes there are that many stages in the works).

    Then there's the top secret Diabolical stuff we preran a couple of weeks ago. I have in mind maybe giving Quinn and Kurt an early set from Diabolical before that becomes a real race. That stuff is by far the best suited for training guys who want to open and win stages in Dakar.

    If you want some of my DVR training roadbooks, first do a school with Jimmy Lewis or RMS. After you've done that, PM me and I'll send you my roadbook catalog.
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  15. garfey

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    Well, heck, fellow speckletators, I've done let 'em get underway without intense scrutiny, again. I be shame. :shog
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  16. Dakar Dame

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    You all know so much yet seem to be unaware that 5 months ago Quinn shattered his femur in the Baja 1000, had a six hour surgery with 3 docs piecing together what was left of his femur, bolting the bone into a metal rod they'd put into his leg; the bone is still mending around that today, it's a known fact an injury of such severe nature to the largest bone in the body takes 9 months to a year to reach full recovery.

    Very few racers are back on a bike 5 months after this injury, let alone taking on a 4 day rally race.

    Would make more sense to hear any of you acknowledge his courage for traveling halfway around the world and taking on a race like this as the first race since his injury. Would be more useful and accurate a topic of discussion rather than endlessly nitpicking Quinn's navigation skills, stooping lower yet in questioning his company for providing him with the opportunity to perfect his navigation skills in this rally.
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  17. HogWild

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    Don't take this stuff too seriously. There are a bunch of rally nuts in here (me included) who can't sleep if they don't get their rally fix each day. With so little inside information available, they speculate in all kinds of crazy directions all day long, wishing they had some solid facts. You just brought in some helpful info that should navigate us back on track. I have something special for Quinn and Kurt when the right time comes. We want them both to be at the top of their game come January!
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  18. too old

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    +1 - Don't be so sensitive, we all know of Quinn's issues since Dakar 2012 and admire his tenacity to be back on the bike, there are always stories within stories and we could all go on ad infinitum at times with all the permutations on the various topics under discussion.:1drink

    There is much light heartidness on here, but don't get me on the issue of Quinns team/company - not my favourite at the moment after "their" shitty exploits in the ADDC, so if you feel there is a little sourness in the speedbrain direction from me, then you are spot on :D :thumb
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  19. too old

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    You don't have some of that "in the ear" CIA or even Jack Bauer CTU satelite communication technology, do you?:wink:
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  20. too old

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    All change - 1,2,3,4,5 - 5,4,3,2,1 :D

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    </TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt dashed; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt dashed; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; PADDING-LEFT: 1.75pt; WIDTH: 40.05pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 1.75pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt dashed; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt dashed; PADDING-TOP: 1.75pt; mso-border-alt: dash-small-gap windowtext .5pt" width=53>10:39:08 <o:p></o:p>





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    </TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt dashed; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt dashed; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; WIDTH: 93.5pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt dashed; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt dashed; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; mso-border-alt: dash-small-gap windowtext .5pt" width=125>GONCALVES Paulo <o:p></o:p>




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    </TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt dashed; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt dashed; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; PADDING-LEFT: 1.75pt; WIDTH: 40.1pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 1.75pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt dashed; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt dashed; PADDING-TOP: 1.75pt; mso-border-alt: dash-small-gap windowtext .5pt" width=53>05:47:00 <o:p></o:p>





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    </TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt dashed; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt dashed; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; PADDING-LEFT: 1.75pt; WIDTH: 40.05pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 1.75pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt dashed; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt dashed; PADDING-TOP: 1.75pt; mso-border-alt: dash-small-gap windowtext .5pt" width=53>10:39:01 <o:p></o:p>





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    </TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt dashed; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt dashed; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; WIDTH: 93.5pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; HEIGHT: 16.55pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt dashed; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt dashed; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; mso-border-alt: dash-small-gap windowtext .5pt" width=125>COMA-CAMPS Marc <o:p></o:p>




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    </TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt dashed; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt dashed; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; PADDING-LEFT: 1.75pt; WIDTH: 40.1pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 1.75pt; HEIGHT: 16.55pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt dashed; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt dashed; PADDING-TOP: 1.75pt; mso-border-alt: dash-small-gap windowtext .5pt" width=53>05:45:00 <o:p></o:p>





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    As ever, PAU is Mr. consistent - 3 -3 :lol3
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