Selling the bike dilemma - BA or Paraguay, and how??

Discussion in 'Latin America' started by Ruthrad, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. Willson

    Willson Adventurer

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    hi everyone,

    Ruthrad, thanks a lot for summurizing all that info. Great help !
    Could you just tell us a little more about your bike and how much you got for it ? Just to get a rough idea on the market over there.
    I am in Argentina right now and trying to figure out a good way to sell the bike.
    Cheers !
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  2. Acampao

    Acampao WInd Jammer

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    Double check. While in Texas on a non-immigrant visa, I imported a used Harley from Chile and registered it without any problem. Thing is it was a US made bike, but still had a metric speedometer and stuff.
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  3. Rods

    Rods bikers help desk

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    Hey mate,

    Saw you're trying to sell the bike, I've helped many bikers here in Iguazu with all problems and I helped Ruthrad to sell his bike in PY. If you need any help give me a shall, send some pics and i'll contact the potential buyers and then you get a quick response and then decide what to do, send some pics and I'll put you in touch. Or if you're just passing by Iguazu(Brazil side) give a shall for a drink ok.







    Cheers

    Rod
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  4. Willson

    Willson Adventurer

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    hey Rod ! Just sent you a PM.
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  5. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    Well ... there you go! Since it originated in the USA ... it's A OK to register it in any US state. The VIN number (I guess) is not flagged in that situation.

    My main point is all the NON us riders who think the guy at the border is going to hassle them about their foreign bike. Border/Homeland security don't deal with vehicles. They deal with people. If your visa is OK then you are in. How you deal with the bike later is another matter.

    They WILL note the license number on their computer when you pass through and they will scan your passport. So you are in the data base. But bike registration legalities are left to the states to sort out.
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  6. MCTravler

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    I have been working on a project here in Lima since November , the project should be completed by March-April.
    I have posted a couple of WTB with not much interest?? if any one has a bike worthy of a trip back North to the US
    PM me. It may be possible for me to fly to Chlie if necssary for the deal and or to pick up the bike.
    Thanks
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  7. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    Several bikes posted for sale now down in Punta Arenas. Check Horizon's.
    A DL650 Vstrom and one or two DR650's were up. One very cheap. Get on a bus and go. Legal transfer is possible there.
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  8. Acampao

    Acampao WInd Jammer

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    That's going to be a looong bus ride from Lima. Better save for air tickets.
    Also, keep in mind that zona franca bikes have some restrictions, in case you plan to get back to Chile further north.
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  9. Ruthrad

    Ruthrad XR650L

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    So this is an old thread but since it provides some potentially very useful information for travelers in this kind of dilemma, and following the other posts here - I'd like to add some perspective and information to it. Following more updates from Rod (rodolfofoz@hotmail.com) about helping more and more bikers with selling their bikes to everyone's satisfaction in Ciudad del Este, just like he wrote above - anyone looking for a simple and most importantly a tried and tested and quick solution, go to Foz do Iguazzu, contact Rodolfo either by mail or PM or through his new (for me) blog - www.bikershelpdesk.blogspot.com.
    In the time that passed since I've had the pleasure of meeting, he wasn't resting (that is something that he doesn't seem capable of) - and he now has a great moto-hostel (or rather a moto-villa), so even if you don't need any help, but just accommodation, or don't need anything but are passing though the area - go buy him a beer for me :)) he's an amazing guy and one of the kindest people I met on the road!
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  10. Sandino

    Sandino Been here awhile

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    Hey mate, I am located in Paraguay. If you still got the bike, and looking to sell, let me know, send some pics as the link in the first page is not longer working, and the price of course. rirolone at hotmail dot com.
    cheers
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  11. markharf

    markharf Been here awhile

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    Best advice I heard about pricing in South America--assuming you really do want to sell a bike, and aren't just toying around with the concept--was as follows:

    Decide how much your bike is worth at home in the USA or Europe. Deduct whatever it would cost to ship it home. That's your selling price.

    I've seen people try desperately, but fail to sell their bikes, and I've watched people succeed almost effortlessly. Price has almost always made the difference. It makes no difference what you paid for it, what you think the bike should be worth, or what someone at a fuel stop told you they would pay for it if they only could, or even what fully legalized bikes just like yours appear to be selling for wherever you are. Nor does all that upgrading you did before leaving on your trip matter much--all the skid plates and replacement bolts and fancy wiring and plugs for heated clothing. Even hard luggage is of little value (unless you manage to sell to another overland rider).

    There are exceptions, of course. There are always exceptions. And I sure don't know all there is to know in the world, so I'd be interested in hearing other ideas.

    Mark
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  12. kantuckid

    kantuckid Long timer

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    What he just said is true in USA sales too-plus I'll add that condition/miles also usually matter too.
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  13. o*o

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    More than one person I rode with has sold their bike in SA. One or more was in Paraguay following "special procedures."
    Check the facts in the specific country you consider selling it. I'd also add in any penalty I'd be charged for not taking your bike out of the country when I return. :deal In a number of countries I signed documents stating I will take my bike out of the country by a specific date. In Brasil the penalty was over $5,000 reals or almost $3,000 US which I would have to pay when I return.

    One guy currently has his bike 'temporarily' confiscated for over 4 months now for overstaying 1 week in Peru. :baldy A buyer might have an illegally imported bike confiscated? I'd advise a buyer to check that out for themselves. People who have asked to buy my bike look confused but undaunted when I mention these considerations.
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  14. Arnolphus

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    Is there anyone who actually did this? I (European passport) just bought a KLR in Argentina with an American plate on it, from an American. I'm going to get the papers fixed at the local notary. Is there anybody who has experience with crossing borders?

    Thank you very mucht!
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  15. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    Be assured, once you have the notary papers the bike is yours and you can travel freely.

    Don't listen to the naysayers.
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  16. bouldergeek

    bouldergeek Filthy, poor KLR dweeb

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    I am going to sell my bike, but I can't leave the plate behind.

    I need my plate to cancel my insurance and registration in the US, and am penalized without that.

    So, my plan is to not include my plate with the sale. I wouldn't include it in the US, either.

    One question: do both parties need to be present to get the sale notarized? The buyer is coming in to town after I have to leave.
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