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Discussion in 'Vendors' started by RocketMoto, Apr 25, 2010.
Looks like my kit is on the postal truck and ready to be delivered to my home some time today.
To everyone on the fence:
I hope I never have to use their customer service, post-purchase - but Adam is a pleasure to deal with and gives me great confidence that they will make things right in case I have issues!
Well, the installation was anti-climactic. If you've ever put speakers into a helmet before you'll finish in five to ten minutes. If you're totally new at it, you might need to fiddle with the speakers a bit for position.
There was sufficient charge in the things to determine that the sound quality is excellent and the volume goes quite high with beautiful clarity. I'm looking forward to trying them on the road.
I'm trying now to decide if I want to VOX-enable the things. I'm very used to VOX, having used an autocomm for several years with my pillion. But I rather like the 'beep, we're talking' default, too.
I will be interested to hear what you think of the audio quality in comparison to your Autocomm. That is what I am using now....
David - allow me to draw some comparisons for you. We install, sell and service Autocom and Starcom1, as well; we're very familiar with these systems.
Audio 'quality' is very subjective. What sounds great to one person, may not appeal to another, at all. That said, here's my take.
The Sena speakers are a snap to install, are much thinner than Autocom's and easier to position in a helmet's ear pocket. The sound is much different, though. The Autocom speakers do not have the the dynamic range of the Sena's, mostly on the high end. The Sena speakers are 'bright' and I believe they're well suited to digital program material like CD's and MP3's which are often compressed and flat sounding. The bass response is good, but much better if the speakers are very close, but not right up against your ears. For a few dollars, we can supply Autocom foam speaker spacers if the helmet has deep ear pockets, to get the speakers closer to your ear canals.
If you're accustomedto the Autocom's sidetone (hear your voice in your speakers) feature, and like it, the Sena may take a bit of getting used to, as there's no sidetone.
Microphone - you do not need to have the mic touching your lips, like you do with Autocom. in fact, the audio is better if the mic is maybe an inch (25mm) away from your mouth.
You will have no issues with sufficient speaker volume - even with earplugs. These things can run quite L*O*U*D.
I hope this insight is useful to you.
...and so the anticipation begins! Particularly since we require the UK style plugs here. Will report back when received (for the rest of you Asia-based international customers), installed and, of course, field tested!
OK, call me crazy, but I'm sitting here in the office with my helmet on, listening to 'Led Zeppelin Radio' on Pandora through my Motorola Droid linked via bluetooth to the Sena headset.
And it sounds really good.
My primary concern with this headset as compared with my old Autocomm is noise cancellation. I think Autocomm did that very well, but this device seems to just want to use straight volume to overcome road noise. I'll have to do some testing over the next few days.
Oh man. I hate you guys for tempting me into this but, I'm so in....one question though:
I'm looking at the dual set. My situation is as follows:
Bike: Zumo 550 (with all its attendant capabilities)
Me: Blackberry Tour for phone
Passenger: Blackberry 8900 for phone
and there's an iTouch with bluetooth also floating around that could figure into this situation.
My question is, with the Sena units can the passenger pair her phone to her headset and also use the intercom? She's a medical professional that often is on call - having the ability to take phone calls on the bike would be HUGE for her.
Help me understand how our various devices would work, please?
I don't believe there is any noise cancellation on the speakers, but there is definitely noise cancellation on the mic input. And it's so fantastic (at 75pmh) that people say it sounds better than when I just hold the Iphone up to my face sans any headset. Fairly amazing.
Good questions. On the Sena, the pairing of the headsets to each other, is a separate function than pairing to the GPS, phone, iTouch, etc. This procedure should get you there.
Power off Blackberry
Pair the Zumo to Sena using the MP3, GPS, Phone option on the Zumo - that will utilize the Sena's headset profile
Turn on the BlackBerry
Pair the BB to the Zumo. This will use the Zumo's phone/hands-free profile. You will be able to dial out and accept calls from the Zumo's screen, with the audio in the headset.
Power off BlackBerry
Pair iPod to the Sena - this will use the A2DP profile for stereo music.
Turn on BlackBerry - Pair Sena to the BB - this will use the hands-free profile. You can answer calls using the 'phone button' on the Sena, or reject calls by tapping on the 'jog dial'
To simplify things, my suggestion is to power off any Bluetooth devices that you are not pairing to - so turn off the iPod and passenger's BB when pairing your setup.
JD - Can we get photos of you groovin' to LZ in your office, please?
The Sena's noise cancellation is very good. I'm still of the opinion that Autocom is tops in this area, but were talking about two completely different animals, here.
Has anyone been able to pair their Sena with a Nuvi? I've tried multiple times and can't get it to work with my 780 which is very disappointing since it's one of the main reasons I bought it. The Garmin only seems to try a passcode of 1234 when the Sena requires a 0000 passcode.
Sorry, Mr RocketMoto, but I didn't see any pairing of the Rider & Passenger headsets above...so do we have to pair the Rider+Passenger headsets before or after the above-mentioned devices? Also, when do we pair this Rider headset to the 3 other Riders' Sena headsets (cos we can communicate with up to 4 other Sena headsets right - which, btw, is the Passenger's headset counted as 1 of the 4 other Sena headsets that can be paired together)? Thanks.
Sure! I'll do my best to remember to get one taken this week before leaving for the RDV. I assume standard modeling fees apply?
I'll be putting it to the real test beginning Thursday morning, two up on a smallish and barely-faired machine all day long, on roads up to and including Interstates. I still haven't informed the wife about it, although it's installed, charged, and ready to go on her helmet. Maybe I'll surprise her with it tomorrow, as it seems an appropriately romantic Mothers Day gift.
He didn't mention pairing the headsets together because it doesn't have any impact on the rest of the procedure, and can be done before or after what was presented, or I suppose at various points along the way. Pair them up ahead of time, or do it later, it just doesn't matter.
Yes, the passenger headset will be considered one of the four. The procedure for pairing the headsets together is clearly outlined in the manual (which you can read on-line at senabluetooth.com). It takes a few seconds per pairing.
Steve? 3:00AM and you're pairing your headset?
Seriously - call us in the shop and we'll work on it together. We haven't paired to a 780, but the Nuvi 765 paired right up.
Sweeeet. I will be sharing this with the girl tomorrow and if she agrees that this is what we both are looking for, you'll have another order Monday.
Hello all. I am mostly a lurker and definitely new to this forum. However I just wanted to put in my 2 cents...
I purchased my Sena set just over a week ago from Rocketmoto. I can tell you these guys are first rate. I have only been on two short rides with the Sena's. However, I had an issue with one of my units not putting out any bluetooth music. I called Rocketmoto and Dave immediately began trouble shooting and I discovered I had a faulty clamp unit. I received a call from Adam that very night and have a replacement clamp unit on the way already.
Thanks guys, not only a great price but awesome customer service.
Thanks, JD...that was just the info I needed! Cheers, Roy
I've got to say that Dave at RocketMoto is A+ ok with me!! I ordered a single unit of the sena. After it arrived I mounted it to my helmet and it connected with the bluetooth on my phone right away, made a phone call or 2 just to check it out! Since I haven't ordered a bluetooth adapter yet for my ipod or Garmin 2720 I was going to just use the corded 3.5 plug for my music and the jack wouldn't go into the mike set, I tried again and again pushing it in but it wouldn't go in. I called Dave at RocketMoto with my problem and after telling him I was planning on using it for a ride this wk. end he overnited me a replacemant !! HOWS THAT FOR SERVICE!! I Highly recommend RocketMoto for your buisness.