Sena SMH10 - Inmate's Special GROUP BUY!

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by RocketMoto, Apr 25, 2010.

  1. airheadpenguin

    airheadpenguin Danger to himself

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    Let me know if the RMA'd ones are any better. I'm going to be seatless at some point so I can go without for a bit.
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  2. RocketMoto

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    JD - Do let us know if the issue is resolved with a replacement unit. We want to be sure that you (and everyone) is taken care of. Of course, we can also help you with an exchange (once our inventory gets up to snuff, anyway).

    As you may (or may not) know we are very experienced with Autocom and Starcom1, and specialize in all manner of some pretty sophisticated installations. Autocom, is in our opinion, the very best in terms of noise cancellation, so long as the Autocom hub is setup correctly. Bluetooth offers a significant convenience factor and cost advantage over a wired system. A wired system offers versatility in terms of the number and variety of devices that can be connected, whereas Bluetooth can be very easy or frustrating, depending on whether the devices that you want to connect (pair) are compatible with each other.

    That said, if there are any issues or concerns, please do let us know, and we will help you to get answers or work towards a resolution, if we aren't able to resolve it for you.

    Thanks!
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  3. JDLuke

    JDLuke Ravening for delight

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    Adam,

    Now that I'm up to it I've sent an email to you detailing the communications between Sena and me. I'm sure it will be worked out on one side or the other, and I can't certainly can't fault them for their response time to this.

    I'm not convinced that it's not a phone issue, but at least the additional headset will give me an opportunity to test it.

    I agree with your assessment of bluetooth vs. wired technologies. If real-time communication is absolutely critical, Autocom is the way to go. If you can deal with the occasional bit of interference and waiting a moment for connections to be established, and your riding environment is quiet enough, the Sena headset is a great and very convenient option.

    JD
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  4. BadRap

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    order up!
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  5. JDLuke

    JDLuke Ravening for delight

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    Now for an update.

    Sena customer service very quickly shipped me a package consisting of two entirely new headsets.

    I pulled one out, and the first thing I checked was the version number on the label. There was none. :huh

    I thought that was odd, but I also figured that meant it was at least somehow different from my first set. So I paired it with my phone, or tried to. I think my phone was confused by the new device with the same name, so I deleted it and was able to pair them up just fine. I put on my helmet and started the music, so far so good.

    Then I paused the music, and pressed the big button to talk to someone else. Of course, I hadn't paired the damn thing with another headset, so it didn't really do much, but when I started the music again it sounded perfect! :D

    I *had* to be sure. I pulled out the other headset and paired them together. I also paired the second one to my wife's phone. All the testing went well, with sound resuming correctly every time no matter what I did.

    Then I tried getting music on my wife's new headset, and it didn't work! However, the problem was easily fixed by taking her phone back to the main screen, and off the bluetooth menu I had used to pair it up. Apparently that particular phone will only respond to the remote control from the home screen or the music app, crisis averted.

    I'm quite happy with this setup now, even listening through earplugs. If and when I add to a bigger, quieter bike to the stable I can only imagine it will be even better.
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  6. iamthedruman

    iamthedruman n00b

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    Hi Adam,

    I've got a pair of Senas on the way and I want to connect the primary to my Zumo 550. Any suggestions for a good Bluetooth transmitter? Are they all about the same? Anything worth knowing about'em?

    Cheers!
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  7. RocketMoto

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    Your Zumo 550 is Bluetooth enabled. Pairing to the Sena is a snap. Call us and we can take you thru the procedure if you hit a sang.
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  8. iamthedruman

    iamthedruman n00b

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    My bad, I meant a stereo bluetooth transmitter in order to get stereo MP3s.
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  9. RocketMoto

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    There are lots of these around...

    Take a look on eBay for the Jabra A210S (be sure to get the "S" stereo version). You can typically pick one of these up for short money. Honestly, nearly any A2DP 'dongle' will do what you want. The only downside is having to recharge yet another battery.
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  10. RocketMoto

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    Thanks, JD. Good to hear that the issue is resolved. Now get out there and RIDE!
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  11. sparkletoes

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    Careful here - I think the Jabra A210S has a 2.5mm lead, which will not be compatible with the 3.5mm Audio Out from the Zumo 550, although an 2.5-3.5mm converter could be used, but that would be clunky on the side of the Zumo cradle. Jabra's older A120 had a 3.5mm jack, if you can find one.

    As a temporary measure, I have bought the Sony TMR-BT10 for £4.99 (!), even though it has a useless charging base, but fine for day use. Comes with a 3.5mm jack. Stop gap measure until Sena bring out their own Bluetooth Audio Gateway, which hopefully will have a bike charging option and is weatherproof.

    Hope this helps.
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  12. Serp

    Serp Been here awhile

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    Adam - I just sent you an email via advrider requesting a price for a dual kit shipped to Canada.
    Thanks.
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  13. Country Doc

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    Received my dual kit from Rocketmoto about a week ago, finally got around to installing them today. I installed one set on my five year old's MX helmet and one in my Arai Quantum.

    Installation was dead easy as was pairing. Intercoms paired together right away, iPhone 3GS paired right away to my comm, iPod Touch paired to the boy's comm so he can listen to stories/watch movies/etc while hanging out in the sidecar.

    Went for a test ride just now and it all worked well. It's easy for him to make calls and hang up, with the big jog dial button that he can operate with his small hand. Very cool. He had plenty of volume as he was behind a windshield.

    I found I needed to run it pretty close to max volume to hear him easily, but there is a good amount of wind noise/turbulence that comes off the K100RS screen on the bike. Anyway, at 65mph, we could still carry on a conversation no problem, even though I had to have the volume up.

    Didn't try music or cell phone yet while riding, just comm-to-comm, and for that purpose, I'd call it an unqualified success.

    I listened to music over bluetooth from the iPhone while sitting inside, and it sounded ok. A bit thin, no real bass. When I cranked up the volume, it began to distort and break up - I wouldn't choose it specifically for music - but dialogue/podcasts/voice is excellent. The audio, while a bit thin, is very clear and detailed, which is nice.

    So my only minor niggle is for a touch more volume (which I found a bit surprising, given the reviews that state how LOUD they are - I didn't find that to be true), other than that, these things are great, and the fact that they're easy to use for a five-year old speaks to how user-friendly they are.

    Thanks Rocketmoto,

    dc
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  14. G-Wing

    G-Wing Been here awhile

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    :ear Any update on the 3.5mm Audio Jack Microphone Clamp Unit (Part # SMH-A0303)? I used J&M components for years but after using Big Ears I just don't want a speaker system. Thanks in advance for your help Adam :thumb
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  15. RocketMoto

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    Figure a month, plus or minus on the earbud clamp units. I'm hoping for minus, but... :deal
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  16. spenserj87

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    I've been trying to figure out the best way of paring the Sena with my Zumo 550 and my Blackberry 8900. I want the above setup where I can use the Zumo for calls, but I'd rather be able to listen to music using A2DP from the blackberry. If I set up the bb for A2DP music, I can't listen to the Zumo voice directions or use the Zumo for calls. If I setup through the Zumo, I can't listen to music from the bb.

    It would also be nice to have full voice control of the BB, but see caller ID on the Zumo - I'm assuming I can't have both.
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  17. RocketMoto

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    So - the Sena has *one* headset profile - meaning you can pair to *one* device at a time, as a headset. If you connect as a headset to the Zumo, you can't pair to the BlackBerry as a headset at the same time. This is a limitation of Bluetooth technology - all BT technology, today, and not just with the Sena.

    If you were to pair your phone to the Zumo and the headset to the Zumo, the Zumo acts a a 'gateway' between the phone and headset - relaying voice for phone calls. But - as you know the Zumo 550 does not play stereo music.

    Honestly, this is where wired systems like Autocom and Starcom1 have their advantages over Bluetooth. Connect it all - play in stereo, 2-way radio, etc. Bluetooth headsets like the Sena are really terrific, but the technology does have some limitations.
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  18. JDLuke

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    It sounds like there's a niche in the market for a switching bluetooth hub, something that could integrate signals from multiple devices and pair to the headset as a single unit.
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  19. sparkletoes

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    I've been informed by Sang-Jin at the Paris Sena HQ that they are working on one, though not for the immediate future. I've had many emails with him, outlining the need for a Bluetooth Audio Gateway, and he is aware of the gap in the market. Requested some sort of in-use chargeable hub with the ability to do exactly what JDLuke has suggested. Sang-Jin is thoroughly on-board, but for now they are concentrating on making sure the SMH10 gets out there to customers and that they are happy.

    In the meantime, as a cheap stop gap, I am using a Sony TMRBT10 (£4.99 on eBay), which holds its charge pretty well, and outputs Zumo550 stereo music to headset. Sony is not a touring option, as its charger is woeful and needs a mains plug to charge. But it'll do for the meantime. WiRevo D1000 from Benchmark Helmets will do the same thing, and has USB charging, but is considerably more expensive, though better audio quality (I have read).

    Hope this helps.
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  20. JRWooden

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    I spaced out and missed the group-buy, I didn't read about the closing date :deal (either that or it wasn't posed when I found the thread and started reading)...

    Anyway, so as to have something to cry in my beer about ... what was the group buy price? :freaky