Sena SR10

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  1. WZ4I

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    Works 100% for a 2 way radio. I've tried it on the Midland portable CB, and a Kenwood amateur transceiver. The SR10 becomes a 'gateway' for your BT devices. I feel sure they will address the issue of losing voice commands to my smartphone shortly.
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  2. greyfoxrepublic

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    Appears that a bottom line here is that the SMH10 can only support one HFP and one A2DP connection at a time. I "think" the SR10 can smush multiple BT signal sources together for a single stream to the SMH10. Right?
    At present, I cannot do one and two below simultaneously. I'm trying to figure out how an SR10 can fix this but isn't clear from the diagrams I see. http://www.senabluetooth.com/support/connection_guide.php?tab_menu=sr10

    1) SMH10 <bt> Garmin 660 <bt> IPhone4 (this works pretty fine)
    2) SMH10 <bt> Yaesu FTM10SR (this is intermittent, but once it is up, seems ok)

    to switch between 1 and 2 requires powering things down and back up.

    All the above glued to an R1150GSAdv.</bt></bt></bt>
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  3. Donkey

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    I thought the bluetooth hubub from Sena was supposed to make it so you could have a four way conversation with other sena intercoms, no?
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  4. WZ4I

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    No.That will be the next firmware update for the SMH10.
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  5. Donkey

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    Cool! Thanks :D

    So the hub is to connect to other brand headsets, intercoms, etc?
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  6. ReactorTrip

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    The hub is so you can connect a lot more sources and stuff like two way radios to the Sena or whatever brand bluetooth headset you own. Just a way to add more sources.
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  7. Donkey

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    Ah... Got it now and thank you! :beer
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  8. TomB

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    Just got mine a few days ago and was disappointed to find that the Yaesu Single-Pin cable does work with my Yaesu VX-6. It looks OK for non 'submersible' Yaesus but not for the 'submersible' models like mine.

    The solution is to get Sena's ICOM cable and connect it to the Yaesu using the Yaesu CT-91. My ICOM cable won't arrive for a few days but I'm sure it will work with the SR10 as well as it did with my Autocom.
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  9. Dagwood_55

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    Doesnt Yaesu make a plug to go into the submersible plug on your radio, where you can then hook the Sena Yaesu plug into?? About 10 bucks I think, that's what Texas Towers told me....
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  10. TomB

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    I've not been able to find such an adapter. The Yaesu CT-91 cost $11.95. Once you've made that step it doesn't matter that the SR10 interface is the ICOM cable. The solution works and is submersible.

    Cyclebots is giving full credit for the Yaesu cable. I'm just try to save Yaesu VX submersible series owners the inconvenience.

    If someone can post a link to the adapter Dagwood mentioned I'd appreciate it.
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  11. Dagwood_55

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    I dont have a link, but I saw this problem a while back as I was looking at the Sena website on the SR. On the options page with the pics of the connectors, I saw the Yaesu was different than my submersible connector.

    At that time I thought it was a case of old vs new plugs for the Yaesu. I called Sena a couple of times trying to get them to carry the submersible/new plug, but pretty well go a "take it or leave it, thats what we got" reply.

    I then thought to call "Texas Towers" radio supply and the salesman on th e phone said Yeasu maks an adaptor plug tha goes from submersible back to reg plug. FWIW
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  12. Dagwood_55

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    Anyone with a SR10 got a full blown report on how these things work?? Especially the bike to bike via 2 way radio.

    I want to do three things with my SMH-10 and my SR10:

    1) I want to be able to talk BT rider to pass with my wife when we're 2up, the basic operation of the SMH. We generall leave the mic "open" as we talk alot.

    2) Talk bike to bike with fellow riders with similar radio setups as I have. And use the PTT switch to transmit.

    3) I need to be able to recieve phone calls on my IPhone 4, weather paired to the SMH or paired to the SR or wire attached to the SR, don't know which will be best.

    Can I do all three of these things without any problems???
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  13. ReactorTrip

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    1) SMH standard operation

    2) if you have two frs/gmrs radios that talk to each other, your SMH will work with an SR10 that will allow you to connect to your radio. Your riding buddy will have to find a way to hook into his...

    3) just go straight BT from SMH10 to iphone, no need for SR10 for this...

    2 is the only thing you really need the SR10 for...
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  14. Dagwood_55

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    2). How's it work, same as if hardwired to the radio??
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  15. Bails

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    I use the SMH and really think it is the Ducks Guts, however this is the quandary! I connect the iPhone 4 to the Garmin 660,the Garmin is paired to the SMH. I would like to have two radio, and the SR would seem to be the choice.

    Can I still have the same paring as above, and also pair the SR to the SMH, if not then I would not consider the SR.
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  16. Dagwood_55

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    I finally call Sena and talked to a tech.

    I asked if he had actually used the SR10, he said yea, around the office. I asked how one really worked in real life on a motorcycle, with a 2 way radio hooked up to it and BT'd to a SMH10. The Sena tech said they did not know, they were waiting on feed back from new buyers.

    He said if there were problems, then when they heard about them, they would prolly have an upgrade...

    Nothin like knowing your product and having confidence in it.........

    Go figure.........
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  17. cyclebot

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    Hey guys, hadn't checked in for a while on this thread. It has been a little bit of a learning curve on the connectors for the different radios, such as with Tom's Yaesu. Anywhoo, the Sena SR10 will work with the Cardo lineup of products (although probably best with the Sena).

    The way it works is basically by multiplexing the Headset profile inputs. It doesn't however transmit A2DP for stereo, so you would have to look elsewhere for that. It will work with the Zumo and Iphone, (although you would have to Bluetooth the Zumo into the SR10) and two way radio at the same time. I have tested it on the road and it works well with the Midland and Motorola radios, however it does require some setup.

    So you get the whole party in your helmet. GPS instructions telling you where to go, your buddies telling you they have to pee and your wife calling you telling you to come home, all at the same time. :eek1 (Plus two other Auxillary inputs)
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  18. robpur

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    I can't say how well it works on a bike, but I can say that the two-way radio performance of the SR10 around my house is rather poor.

    I just received my second SR10 in the mail today after having noise issues with my first one. The first SR10 had a lot of background noise and a loud, slow popping, popcorn sound whenever I was near electrical devices. I found that I needed to be nearly 150 feet away from my house before the popcorn would stop popping. Walking near a neighbors house had the same effect. At home I turned off all of my radio devices such as WiFi, cordless phones, cell phones, and other Bluetooth devices, along with electrical appliances such as the TV and stereo. As I turned things off the noise was reduced, but not eliminated. I was not able to find any one device causing the problem. Instead, the noise appeared to be caused by everything electrical in my house, collectively.

    Another problem I found was that the SR10 produced a rather weak audio signal when used with a two-way radio. After playing with it for a while, plugging and unplugging stuff, I started having trouble with the auxiliary inputs. I found that I needed to push the plug in all the way, and then pull it back out slightly before I could get audio to play through the jack. Convinced that it was defective, I returned it for replacement.

    The replacement arrived today with a note that said the one I returned was tested, and was not found to be defective. A check of the serial number revealed that the replacement was different from the one that I had sent, and it did not have the popcorn noise issue or an issue with the auxiliary jacks. I was quite happy about that, but sadly, the two-way radio performance wasn't any better.

    I've been using two-way radios with a riding partner for a bit over 4 years. We have used Kenwood FreeTalk XLS (TK-3131) radios mostly, but we have also used BlackBox-U and HYT radios that use Motorola compatible accessories. The radios, along with a couple of Motocomm wired headsets, have worked quite well for us, and I've been impressed with both the audio quality and volume. We have never had a problem hearing each other even while wearing earplugs. Wind noise in the microphones at high speed has been quite noticeable, but we could still carry on conversations. Wanting to go wireless we purchased a couple of SMH10s with the idea of using them until the SR10 became available. The SMH10s work great as an intercom as long as you are close enough, with plenty of volume, but the range is far too limiting for how we ride. We ride dual sports and I'm the faster rider so I lead. I usually ride ahead until I can no longer reach my riding partner on the two-way radio, then I stop and wait up. If he doesn't come into radio range quickly, then I ride back to make sure he's ok. This method works great for us since we can both ride at our own pace. I found the range of the SMH10s to be somewhat adequate when riding pavement, but in the woods I could only get around a bend or two before they disconnected.

    This is how I tested the SR10 that I received today. I paired the SR10 and SMH10, connected the Motorola (BlackBox-U) two-way radio with the appropriate cable, and put my helmet on. I gave my wife another Motorola (HYT) with the volume turned up all the way. I walked outside and tried talking with her, using the PTT button on the SR10. She could barely hear me and commented that the background noise was louder than my voice. I could hear her just fine, but she kept asking me to repeat myself. I then swapped out the Motorola radio and cable, with a Kenwood radio and cable. Did another test and experienced the same weak audio. Just to be sure there were no radio issues I disconnected the radio from the SR10 and talked with my wife radio to radio. She was shocked when I first started talking because the volume was turned up all the way, and my voice was so loud. So, radio to radio using the built-in mics is quite loud, and radio to radio using Motocomm headsets inside helmets is also quite loud, but transmitted audio through the SR10 is so weak that it can barely be heard in a quiet room.

    I sent a description of my issue to the retailer but have not yet heard back from them. Unless there's a way to increase the signal being fed from the SR10 into the microphone input of the radio, then the SR10 is unusable to me. Maybe it will work better with a different radio, but it certainly doesn't work well with any of my three radios.

    Rob
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  19. Dagwood_55

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    Thanks for the review.

    I want so badly for this to work. Would be the answer to all what I want if it worked as advertised, but looks like it needs improvemen before I spend my $'s on it.
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  20. ReactorTrip

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    That's disappointing to hear. I am waiting on my radios to show up. I got a free SR10 from Sena's facebook give away, so I haven't really wasted any money on this thing. Hoping it works better than your review.
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